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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jul 2013 15:34 pm 
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Following from the In-box Review I will build this utilising Xtradecal sheet X72-176 :arrow:
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Details of airframes built at Sywell are quite sketchy. Of the markings on this sheet, I noted :arrow:
DS620, first flew 19-02-43, KO-W of B Flight, 115 Squadron RAF East Wretham, June 1943, 1668 CU wrecked 24-10-44, 554 flying hours. It had the smaller bombardier blister glazing, had no spinner hub covers fitted and had the bulged bomb bay with the ventral FN64 turret.
I suspect that DS708 was Sywell built as DS704/5&9 all went to 408 Sqn. As EQ-Q it had the smaller bombardier blister glazing and aerodynamic spinner hub covers. As EQ-G it was refitted with the larger bombardier blister glazing, had spinner hub covers fitted and had the bulged bomb bay with the ventral FN64 turret.
I have already built DS604.
I suspect that DS827 was Sywell built as DS833/5&6 all went to 115 Sqn. It had the larger bombardier blister glazing but no spinner hub covers fitted, although DS830 went to 432 Sqn.

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I will pull up a chair and watch ... but I was hoping that there would be the bits n bobs in here to knock out a BIII instead/as well ....


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At the moment you'll have to get the Dambuster as well as this to make a B.III :fear:

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Ratch wrote:
At the moment you'll have to get the Dambuster as well as this to make a B.III :fear:


You mean "instead of", not "as well", I think? All of the parts (but not decals) to make a B.I/B.III are in the Dambuster box, I think?

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Bruce, I'm not 100% sure what comes in the Dambuster box but I know the Merlins are not included in this one, but are in that :idea:

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Chris, I would be amazed if Airfix didn't issue a standard BI/III kit, especially as the transparencies include a part that is not for use on either a Dambuster or a BII. :wink:

As it is, if you want to build a BI/III, everything you need is in the Dambuster issue except decals.

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Is it true that no ordinance is included?

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Hawk98 wrote:
Is it true that no ordinance is included?

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Correct. Need the supply set or spares box.

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A bit daft for the casual buyers sake but I suppose it's a way to get keen modellers to get the bomber resupply set and get Airfix a few more sales I suppose?


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Not necessarily, if you have the old Dambuster gift set with Dam, it comes with un-needed munitions as well as the upkeep mine

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So looking forward to seeing the MK II built . . .

VERY surprised to see the number of options for the Mk.II Squadrons . . . .

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Lincolnlanc wrote:
VERY surprised to see the number of options for the Mk.II Squadrons . . . .

There are only two options in the kit (see the in-box review), the decals pictured above are from Xtradecal :idea:

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Building has commenced :D
My first task was to source a 1/24 stand and having done this, open the aperture to accept it.
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This required more surgery than expected as the moulded recess seemed tight. But I went too far and had to put a piece of plastic card over one end to reduce the gap :oops:
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A set square to check the braces :geek:
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As the other kit will be grounded, I have taken the pilot figure from the second kit, which along with others from my spares box, will make up the crew.
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Sprayed with VMA Black :arrow:
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Aug 2013 13:11 pm 
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I dry-brushed the framework of the bomb bay with Natural Steel :wink:
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Nice start Ratch, the dry brushing looks great :thumb:

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The detailing and dry brushing looks great Ratch. A question - when it comes to further assembly I presume you carefully scrape away the paint at the points the relevant surfaces are to be mated to ensure proper adhesion?


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No I never bother scraping the paint off and I've never had a problem with adherence :wink:

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I'm looking at adding crew to this (I may have mentioned it) :lol:
One of my reference books says this was a seven-seat bomber, so what were the functions of the seven men :?:
    1, pilot
    2, co-pilot
    3, navigator
    4, nose gunner
    5, bomb aimer
    6, upper/ventral turret gunner
    7, tail gunner
Have I got that right :?:

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NO thats not quite right.

Pilot, Flight Engineer, Navigator, Bomb-aimer, Wireless Operator and two Air gunners.

I believe in practice the guns beneath the aircraft were obsolete before they got to the squadron because they were very differcult to sight at night . . .

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Thanks for that :cheers:
Where was the Wireless Operator's position :?:
I understood the ventral gun was remotely operated. If the upper turret gunner had to work that too, I can understand why he concentrated on what he could see :think:

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The two pilots painted :arrow:
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Another Airbrushing session saw black sprayed on the fuselage interiors, wheel wells and various other parts.
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This was done with my clone airbrush :wink:

The pilot’s position was assembled following the instructions
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and I then painted Tamiya XF-73 Dark Green (JGSDF) on the interior walls, wheel wells, flaps, floor and other parts.
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It was necessary to run a file (minimally) through the aperture in the port fuselage to allow the main spars to run through. Paintwork was touched up as assembly progressed. I fixed the fuselage windows with polystyrene cement as I wanted a strong bond.
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I fixed a crewman into the navigator’s seat.
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I coloured the navigation lights using transparent paints.
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Ratch,
in your photo showing the navigator, the W/op. sat to his left, facing forward with his back against the main spar, left side of the fuselage with the window on his left ...
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Wartime aircraft didnt have the multcoloured down ID lights, only the one.

I have seen several builders putting these in, but its wrong.

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Too late now for the lights :roll: The instructions don't call for colour, so they must be correct :geek:
I shall add a W/Op although I doubt he'll be seen :nailbite:

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Just going back to Lincolnlanc's post about the crew in Lancs, if there were only two 'devoted' air gunners, then which other member of crew would take up the vacant defensive position during combat? (Ignoring some BII's ventral positions)


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