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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 10:34 am 
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Airfix 1/72 Bolton Paul Defiant NF.1, A01031.
Mk.I L7000 "TW*P, 141 Squadron RAF Church Fenton 1940. Dark Earth/Green over sky.
Mk.I T4037 "JT*T, No.256 Squadron RAF Catterick 1940, allover black.

This is a re-release of the venerable old mold. The box is the new shiny type with an interesting box-art, showing all turret guns blazing. Just a niggle but I think the fuselage spine should be retracted if the turret is traversing and firing, but is shown up in the box-art.

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The kit is made in India, the decals are on the brown backing paper and are nicely printed with good density and saturation. The red does seem very vivid though and the serial lettering very thick for the T4037 option - but I'm not a Defiant expert so it may be correct.

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The instructions consist of one A4 sheet showing the assembly, and two A4 sheets, one showing each painting and decal option. The painting and decalling instructions are nice and clear and sharp. Colour callouts are for humbrol paints, with Hu30 for the green.

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The contents are carefully packed, with the transparencies in a seperate plastic bag withing the main sprue bag.

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The kit itself is showing it's age. My example had a short shot right tailfin, with the area around the slots for the tailplanes incredibly thin on both sides. On the left mainplane join there was an area where the plastic was almost transparent with a hole. The radiator had a large sink hole in it and the propellor was looking very ragged. The pilot figure had a sink hole in the centre of the chest. The was some  flash around several of the smaller components. The surface detail is raised and the entire surface is covered in rivets. The turret transparency had flash in the gun openings and a huge ejector pin mark in the top. The two halves of the fuselage had some warpage, but as the plastic is so thin it's no problem to get them to join.

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In summary I would have to say avoid at all costs, putting aside any issues of accuracy, the mold is worn to pieces, the plastic thin and showing warpage and short shots. I paid UKP3.29 from MFS, no way is the plastic worth this and definitely not the rrp of UKP3.99. As for accuracy, having compared it to the MPM kit which is widely recommended as being the best in this scale, the Airfix kit really is shocking. This mold should never have seen the light of day again, I hope it is sent for scrap and replaced with something decent.
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Nice to see the instuctions & decals  show a camo version, the 1980 kit (61031-9) only shows a night fighter N3328 DZ*Z with a choice of black or nothing. Nice set of shark teeth though. Curiously the decals are  010317.

That new one will look fine with a bit of filler, a bit of reshaping here and there, a new nose , .... a new ... a bit of .....  er the box art looks nice ............
Yes sadly it really should go what a shame I was hoping that they might have upgraded the moulds ( I knew they wouldn't really) ...  :(  :(  :(

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Ahhh, poor old Defiant kit!

Yup it looks like the mold has had it.

Is this the first time it's been issued with a choice of day fighter scheme/decals? I think it's always been just the nightfighter in the past.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 12:58 pm 
If enough people were to return defective parts either to the point of sale or direct to Airfix they might actually be persuaded to dump the tooling forever. I would agree that the colours on the decal sheet look a bit bright and yes the codes look a bit 'off'. The very nicely drawn painting instructions only serve to emphasize the kit errors! I still suspect that a lot of nostalgia trippers will be buying them.

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What I can't understand is ,who is doing their quality control,they should be fired .I believe the term is that goods should be of a merchantable quality ,personally I would send the whole kit back to Airfix and ask for an explanation.I accept htat the moulds are tired ,but come on there is tired and down right worn out.Looking at htat kit there is no way it should have been allowed out for sale .The sad thing is Airfix could do so much better and can ,when they want to ,I know it is harking back but the Spitfire 22/24 and the 1/48 Lightning were gems . :(

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So why oh why would anyone want a 1/24th scale Defiant with those sort of problems possible ........  :twisted:


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Loll wrote:
So why oh why would anyone want a 1/24th scale Defiant with those sort of problems possible .......

50 years have passed  :idea:  

Let's have a bigger and better one  :P

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Ratch wrote:
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So why oh why would anyone want a 1/24th scale Defiant with those sort of problems possible .......

50 years have passed  :idea:  

Let's have a bigger and better one  :P


NAAW lets 'ave a 1/24  SWORDFISH

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:ot:  May I remind you this thread is about the Defiant :evil:  Your comments should be posted in the correct thread :ot:

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I was reading an old Scale Models book last night on modelling aircraft from the Battle of Britain where the author got stuck into the Airfix Defiant - first to go was the nose, then the entire tail. It ended up painted in the day scheme which made it look very different.

The cutaway of the Defiant made the gunner's escape route look a little exciting.....

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DavidM wrote:
I was reading an old Scale Models book last night on modelling aircraft from the Battle of Britain where the author got stuck into the Airfix Defiant - first to go was the nose, then the entire tail. It ended up painted in the day scheme which made it look very different.

The cutaway of the Defiant made the gunner's escape route look a little exciting.....

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I don't think todays rules for exiting an airliner would apply to the Defiant, judging by the time it would have taken the gunner to get out, along with strapping on his parachute too. Statistics showed the life expectancy to be one of the worst positions ever. Brave people flew those things.

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Real ones - look at the state of the underside of the nightfighter when it rolls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9My4IKydo&feature=user

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Very interesting video, interesting to see how the spine pops up when the turret reaches a certain point in the forward traverse. I thought it was always in the down position when the turret was moving, but it seems to be reactive to the turret position.
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Richard M wrote:
Very interesting video, interesting to see how the spine pops up when the turret reaches a certain point in the forward traverse. I thought it was always in the down position when the turret was moving, but it seems to be reactive to the turret position.
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I wonder if the front section does the same, or did we just see the gunner turn his turret to park it and operate the rear spine at the same time. It's so hard to tell in such a tiny section of film.

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Thats a shame about this kit as i was thinking of buying one, due to nostalgia as it was always one of my favorites from my youth

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There's plenty of old kits knocking around, I've seen loads at shows on trader's stands and under club tables. The earlier the kit release you can find, the better the mouldings are likely to be. Just avoid recent boxings like the plague!

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I picked up a Defiant a few weeks ago and although the kit is showing it's age and it was never that accurate to begin with, the parts fit together OK, certainly nothing like the gaps and warping shown in Richard's photo.

Mind you the RRP is £5.99 an an increase of £2 in 3 years which is taking the mickey just a bit.


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Real ones - look at the state of the underside of the nightfighter when it rolls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9My4IKydo&feature=user

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I built one from a recent boxing and it was a blast.  Fit was fine other then wing to fuselarge joins, which admitadly were appaling but also very accesable and easy to deal with.

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My last one went into the bin after a few hours' butchery and a lot of effing and blinding. Nice crisp new one, please, Airfix! You've done it with the Swordfish, Gnat, Tomahawk and Mustang - so you can do it with this sadly under-represented type. Ithengyow.


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I ,for one, have wanted one of these since I first read about it when it was new and I was a teenager. I got one last month. I read this review and others but I found.careful part prep left only the wing gaps on top. However, I'm glad I didn't go with my first idea which was to attach the wing tops first then the bottom with the under wings as a unit. That would have lead to problems ... I'm replacing the spinner and prop from a new Spitfire and affiliate sheet to widen the nose to fit. I'm having fun and after all these years of wanting one. I'll be getting an MPM one soon but it's the Airfix one I really wanted to bring back the times of my youth. I'll certainly get another Airfix kit if it's redone too. I'll upload a picture if and when I get it finished,too.

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