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Richard M · Last edited by Richard M on Fri 05 Dec 2008 09:05 am; edited 1 time in total

Welcome to the Airfix 1/72 Douglas TBD Devastator Group Build. This is the "Chat" thread for the GB and any reference material should be posted in the Reference Section. Matt (XN923) will be the GB Leader. The GB will run from 15/12/08 to 15/2/09.

This GB is to build the Airfix 1/72 Douglas TBD Devastator, aftermarket decals and parts are permitted.

If you wish to take part in the Group Build, you must sign up using the Usergroups link at the top of the screen (above the Log in/Log out link).

Important: Do NOT sign up as a participant of a Group Build if you only want to view the threads!

To take part in the Group Build:

Click on "Usergroups"

In the "Join a Group" section, select "Group Build - Airfix 1/72 TBD Devastator"

Click "View Information"

Click on "Join Group".

Your membership will then be approved.
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Richard M · Posted: Sun 30 Nov 2008 16:01 pm Post subject:

Two weeks to go until this GB starts! Any volunteers to be GB leader?
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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Dunno, what's required?

Richard M · Posted: Thu 04 Dec 2008 16:44 pm Post subject:

From the GB FAQ.

XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Thanks. Hardly seems fair as I didn't vote or anything, but if you have no other more suitable volunteers, let me know.

Richard M · Posted: Fri 05 Dec 2008 09:06 am Post subject:

Matt (XN923) has kindly agreed to be the GB Leader, many thanks and enjoy!
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Ratch · Posted: Fri 05 Dec 2008 09:07 am Post subject:

Good man

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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

No problem. Thank me if the GB doesn't turn out to be a disaster!

I'm considering doing a Midway bird or one of the squadron that visited RNAS Hatston.

Heepdrutt · Posted: Mon 08 Dec 2008 19:05 pm Post subject:

Hi and thanks for letting me join my first group build, just a quick question, I plan to build the Valom Devastator alongside the Airfix is it ok to show that build as well

Thanks
Mark

Richard M · Posted: Mon 08 Dec 2008 19:12 pm Post subject:

Welcome to the forum and the GB!

You can only show pictures of the Airfix kit in the GB build thread (forum rules), however, you can set up a thread dedicated to your Valom build in the Demo-builds section. Alternatively you can post your Valom progress in the "Models on the go...at the mo" thread in modelling chat. I'd be very interested to see how a Valom kit goes together.
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Heepdrutt · Posted: Mon 08 Dec 2008 19:44 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the advice, i'll post the Valom build in the models on the go thread.
It looks good on the Sprue, no wing fold option and some nice cast resin parts.
Regards
Mark

XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

OK everyone, one day to go. Everybody ready with their kits, decals, paint masks, references etc etc?

Good luck everyone

Heepdrutt · Posted: Sun 21 Dec 2008 21:07 pm Post subject:

Cockpit colours

The best info I can find is aluminium dope for new machines with brown headrests

Then approximatly circa 1940 certain aircraft where re-painted in dull bronze green upper surfaces with black headrest.

The wartime scheme when the aircraft where painted blue/grey seems to have been a blue/grey colour for the upper surfaces also with headrest.
The lower cockpits stayed in aluminium dope.

This is my own research on the internet so could very well be wrong, but it seems pretty certain no zinc chromate was used.

XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Is the 'bronze green' not chromate?

Heepdrutt · Posted: Mon 22 Dec 2008 07:49 am Post subject:

I have posted a link to a set of articles on IPMS Stockholm, that makes things a lot clearer in the referance section.

For instance when zinc chromate is painted over aluminium it looks like apple green.

The bronze green is more like Humbrol 78 to my eye.

So on the later Devastators it could be Bronze green or with the chromate applied Apple green.

All this worrying about colours has stopped my build :-)

XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Let's not get into knots over a particular shade of green - build whatever looks right to you, and we won't involve the 'roundel police'!

I think I'll go for all silver on my aircraft...

Heepdrutt · Posted: Mon 22 Dec 2008 08:35 am Post subject:

Me too

But whats the best shade for doped aluminium

Roger 410 · Posted: Mon 22 Dec 2008 17:45 pm Post subject:

Heepdrutt,
Use what ever shade of silver or aluminium you like. Who is going to able to prove you wrong?

There were two production batches, BuNos 0268 to 0381, delivered between August 1937 and June 1938 and 1505 to 1519, delivered between June and October 1939.
Almost certainly all were built with aluminium finish on the inside of the airframe.
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Heepdrutt · Posted: Mon 22 Dec 2008 18:14 pm Post subject:

Thanks Roger,

I have 3 Devastators building a yellow winged Valom, neutrality grey Airfix and a blue grey Valom.
It was the Blue/grey that was proving difficult to pin down the interior colours too I think we have a good idea now though.
I find the subject research the most fun part of the build, the build usually turns into...well photographs soon.

Mark

Ratch · Posted: Mon 22 Dec 2008 19:03 pm Post subject:

When did the yellow wing get changed to the blue/grey markings

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