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Jamesy
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Posted: Mon 27 Oct 2008 16:31 pm Post subject: Airfix Buccaneer 2008 |
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Sorry if somebody else has asked the same question, couldnt find anything by searching 'Buccaneer'. Anyway, went to Yorkshire Air Museum recently on one of their 'Thunder Jets' days, and was inspired by the Buccaneer. Does anybody know when the Airfix kit will actually be released- all sources I have found just say 'due to be released 2008. Any help here would be much appreciated- it's one of my favourite aircraft!  |
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walrus
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Jonathan
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The 1/72 kit (A03072) is being updated kit with new parts of the Gulf version (AN/ALQ 101, Pave Spike, Paveway II LGB, AIM-9 Sidewinder), leading edge aerials and SAAF tanks.
Decals for S.2D of 809 NAS, H.M.S. Ark Royal, 1970 (ESDG scheme), Lossiemouth Gulf Detachment, Muharraq, 1991 (Desert Storm) and an S.50 of No.24 Sqn, SAAF, Waterkloof, South Africa, 1970. _________________ "In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility." (Shakespeare)
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walrus
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Posted: Mon 27 Oct 2008 17:11 pm Post subject: |
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Oh Dear! this is getting Dangerous, thanks to you Jonathon + Ark decals
must not give into temptation- stash ye no more plastic! |
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ME163
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Great , now I have to buy another one 1/72 scale Buc _________________ Airfix, Matchbox,Frog and lindberg....
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Jamesy
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Am I right in thinking this kit si out tomorrow? I hope so for the sake of Mr Airfix, otherwise I will get very cross and send him a letter telling him how naughty he has been!  _________________ "Is there anything you else you need to win the battle?" "Jawohl, Herr Reichsmarshall- Give me a squadron of Spitfires!" |
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mad_djg
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Ah.. the first kit I remember building, probably the late 70's ... guess I'll just have to get one then won't I
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Arpie
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Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009 21:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hey all
Been looking forward to this all year myself. Was on the Airfix website for ages in the New for 2009 list but has gone now . Still if you type Buccaneer into the product search it still has a page and picture so there is hope yet . _________________ ''He changed the result by measuring it'' - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
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thomasweir
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Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2009 17:27 pm Post subject: |
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| According to the amazon website it is due to be released on the 13th Oct 09. |
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Arpie
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Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2009 18:07 pm Post subject: |
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Now that is good news . _________________ ''He changed the result by measuring it'' - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
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thomasweir
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Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2009 21:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Arpie wrote: | Now that is good news . |
But as we have seen no new box art for it I imagine Amazon are going off what they were originally told to get their pre orders in. |
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Tim
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| I just don't understand Hornby's logic. Why re-issue a poor kit with new parts when they opt to produce a completely new kit of the Hawk (which wasn't bad in the first place). Madness! They had a great opportunity to produce a really good new kit of the Buccaneer here and they seem to have wasted in on simply tarting-up a kit which was never great in the first place. |
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 16:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim wrote: | | they seem to have wasted in on simply tarting-up a kit which was never great in the first place. |
Eh  _________________ and was Jerusalem, builded here
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thomasweir
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| Ratch wrote: | | Tim wrote: | | they seem to have wasted in on simply tarting-up a kit which was never great in the first place. |
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Eh squared.
Are you confused with the NA39 which is more like a working toy than a kit.
I've got two on the go at the mo one RAF, one FAA and they are fine kits. |
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Jonathan
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| Tim wrote: | | I just don't understand Hornby's logic. Why re-issue a poor kit with new parts when they opt to produce a completely new kit of the Hawk (which wasn't bad in the first place). Madness! |
Its just a little thought, but given that the Hawk has featured more consistently in the catalogue over the last 35 years than the Bucc, the fact that the kit represented the P.1182 prototype and not a true T.Mk.1, given the need for a Hawk 100 (with the RAFs aquisition of the Mk.120) and that more people will be familiar with the Hawk through The Red Arrows than an aircraft that was retired 15 years ago, maybe the logic was the Hawk was a more commercially viable subject? _________________ "In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility." (Shakespeare) |
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Tim
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 20:31 pm Post subject: |
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Are you confused with the NA39
er...no
I can't imagine what the thinking was behind the Hawk. Not that I'm complaining - the kit's pretty good. I just can't work-out why they didn't apply the same approach to the Buccaneer. As most folks will agree, the Airfix Buccaneer was/is okay-ish, but it was far from great (in fact some still think the Matchbox kit was easier to make into a decent model in some respects). Just seems like a missed opportunity to produce a really good kit of the Buccaneer - heaven knows we need one! |
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Arpie
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 20:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hey all
A new bucc would have been nice and we may see one someday. However the new Hawk kit makes a lot more comercial sence (esp as it includes a pocket money Red Arrows release) and is a fantastic kit . _________________ ''He changed the result by measuring it'' - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 21:05 pm Post subject: |
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There are two Bucc kits scheduled for this year. in 1/72 _________________ Pax Britannica
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 21:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's just the one, it's been bumped up to a series 4 kit due to the added extras, some places still have the old series 3 number listed as a future re-release.
Given budget and time constraints it makes commercial sense to modify existing toolings. It's quicker and cheaper than doing all new toolings and hopefully makes the re-release of the kit more desireable and therefore succesful.
e.g modified F-27, Matilda hedgehog, updated Saturn V.
This means more money in the company coffers, happy accountants, and hopefully more money to develope all new toolings.
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Jonathan
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Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 21:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim wrote: | Are you confused with the NA39
er...no
I can't imagine what the thinking was behind the Hawk. |
See post above - of the two subjects, the Hawk is still flying, more export customers use it and its the mount of The Red Arrows.
A new tool Hawk also gives Airfix a much-needed Hawk 100 which they previously did not have.
It is simply the better known aircraft of the two, therefore one would imagine a better commercial prospect. _________________ "In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility." (Shakespeare) |
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