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The Airfix Flying Hours scheme has been revised with a new passport being issued to be included in the 2012 Club Pack. There are changes to the number of token required, and the kits which can be chosen, the postage cost has also increased.

Existing Flying Hour passports from the Hornby/Airfix Club are still valid and will be honoured according to the conditions printed on them.

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Claim Free Airfix Kits with your Flying Hours Passport

The Airfix Flying Hours Tokens scheme is an exclusive offer to Airfix Club members.

You will receive your Flying Hours Passport with your Club pack.  To claim your FREE kit, simply collect Flying Hours tokens from Airfix packaging.  Once you have collected the correct number of tokens, post the passport to us, and your chosen kit and new passport will be sent to you.  P&P charges apply*.

The passport can only be used with valid Airfix Club membership and the details must be filled out correctly on the reverse of the passport.

Flying Hours can be found on Airfix kits and the number of Flying Hours depends on the series of kit.  Kit series numbers can be defined by the first two digits of the item code for example A02005 is a series 2 and A12002 is a series 12). You will need 12 Flying Hours for a series 1 or 2 kit, 24 hours for a series 3 or 4, 36 hours for a series 5 or 6 and 48 hours for a series 7 or 8.

Flying Hours Passport. A maximum of 48 Flying Hours can be exchanged at one time can only be used for Airfix Kits ranging from series 1 to 8.  The offer does not include Gift sets containing paints. We recommend that you list at least three alternative kits. This offer is subject to availability and we reserve the right to substitute alternatives if necessary. No flying hours tokens will be returned.

Please note that if your first kit chosen is out of stock we will select your second choice. If you have selected new products which are not yet in stock we will hold your passport until the kits are available.

Please enclose a cheque or postal order for £2.95 per kit claimed to cover P&P made payable to Hornby Hobbies Ltd.  Please allow 28 days for delivery.

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*  Please enclose a cheque or postal order for £2.95 per kit claimed to cover P&P made payable to Hornby Hobbies Ltd.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q - Can I use old Flying Hour Tokens?
A - Yes you can use all types of Airfix Flying Hour Tokens.

Q - Do I have to be a member of the Airfix Club?
A - Yes, you have to be a current member of the Airfix Club.

Q - After my first Flying Hours Passport do I get another?
A - You will receive a new Flying Hours Passport every time you receive your free kit.

Q - How long does it take to process my Flying Hours Passport?
A - It may take up to 28 days to receive your requested kit.

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All existing older Flying Hours Passports will be processed with the details and amounts on that Passport. Therefore the £1.50 postage will still apply. They are all still Valid.

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I like that you can go for series 7 & 8, but not that keen on the doubling of P&P and the 20% inflation on the hours  - especially as the number of Flying Hours on the kits themselves have got so reduced i.e. CURRENT series 25 (Mosquito) - 6 Hours; OLD series 18 (Stuka) - 9 Hours :(

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At least those of you with an existing passport can continue to use it and get one last purchase out of it at the old rates.  They could have just sent everyone new ones and instantly converted you all to the new exchange rate.  So there is some loyalty to existing customers being shown.  

Naughty thought ... People like Tom and I think Arpie?? Are waiting for items they requested ages ago ... Are airfix holding back sending them their kits until now so that the new/replacement passports sent on return with their kits reflect the new higher exchange rate...


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At least those of you with an existing passport can continue to use it and get one last purchase out of it at the old rates.  They could have just sent everyone new ones and instantly converted you all to the new exchange rate.  So there is some loyalty to existing customers being shown.  

Naughty thought ... People like Tom and I think Arpie?? Are waiting for items they requested ages ago ... Are Airfix holding back sending them their kits until now so that the new/replacement passports sent on return with their kits reflect the new higher exchange rate...


I was waiting quite a while and got my Ju-52 week before Christmas (complete with 'old' passport) so suspect not.  I guess having the scheme at all (albeit reduced in benefit now) is better then all the other makes who have no loyalty scheme at all :thumb:

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On the flip side of the coin, the new Swordfish kit comes with 3 flying hours, while series 4 normally comes with 2, have to wait and see some future kits to see if they're shuffling the numbers a bit or it was a one-off.

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So you can get  series 7 and 8 now ........erm .....a really big selection .
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Nothing I would hand 48 hours over for  :cry:

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What range/series of kits would the experts amongst you consider to be the best value for redemption rates?


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What range/series of kits would the experts amongst you consider to be the best value for redemption rates?


I would go for the Series 1 and 2 New tools......Gnat , P-51/F-51 , Bf109 and Spitfire F22.

IMHO I think that the Stirling and especially the Lanc are the worst value ones.

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The postage is per kit, so obviously a higher series kit works out as better value than a series 1 or 2 kit. I'd say series 5 or 6 offers the best range of subjects and kits for the flying hours required.

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im going to save my old passport until the new stuff comes out like the afganistan landrovers then might get them

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chrism:400270 wrote:
Naughty thought ... People like Tom and I think Arpie?? Are waiting for items they requested ages ago ... Are Airfix holding back sending them their kits until now so that the new/replacement passports sent on return with their kits reflect the new higher exchange rate...

A very naughty thought and totally unwarranted. :naughty: The only thing that delays shipping of kits is lack of stock of the requested kit. Airfix have honoured Flying Hour tokens that I have submitted from boxes produced long before Hornby took over and I still have several of the older style passports that they have said they will honour at the old rate. How many other manufacturers offer a similar loyalty scheme?

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I don't see it explicitly mentioned but I assume you can still get multiple kits on one passport? I.e. send 36pts and get a series 1 and a series 4?

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I don't see it explicitly mentioned but I assume you can still get multiple kits on one passport? I.e. send 36pts and get a series 1 and a series 4?


Well, on the old passport you can get any combination of kits that 'cost' up to the passport maximum (30 hours) - so if you went for series 1 or 2, up to 3 kits.

The text for the new passport is a little contradictory - one part says your kit (no 'kit(s)' anymore) but another part says there is a P&P charge "PER KIT" - so  implies multiple kits per passport allowed  
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I had understood that they would honour your existing passports, and any tokens you have from whatever age or boxes you have can be fixed on,  so that aspect was never questionable.  But its reassuring to read what you say David and Colin.


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Well this has certainly put a dampener amungst the pigeons.  Almost 9 quid if you opt for 3 no series 1-2 kits, thats a bit steep isnt it especially when they weigh practically nothing and postage would be no more that a large packet at the very most (£4.41 by RM) but Airfix use Home delivery service so would get a very very goo rate.

I think some clarification on this would be good as they would be making a mint on postage if this is the case, thats if you can order multiple kits whcih as highlighted above is contracdictory.

As for the points redemption going up; im not surprisesd. Airfix have reduced the no of points on a box and now means you need to buy 4 more S1-2 kits to make up the difference when redeeming a S3-4 kit or 2no 1-2 kits.

So its not only cost me 4 extra kits at 5.99+ but also going to cost me £6 for two kits via postage. I think we're out of pocket a bit.

Is it me of does it look like that being a club member isnt that benefitial anymore. If postage is 2.95 per kit, hours have gone up, points on box gone down, club kit not necesserily the choice you want, a 10% dicount which generally you can find the kits cheaper per unit elsewhere rather on the airfix shop for a membership fee of £16 or £25? But we do get a catalogue (if postal) and mag per quarter, a badge and a calender.

Its a good job ive got 8no old passports :)

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I can categorically state that I paid between £1.72 and £4.60 to send out individual models to reviewers last year, so £2.95 would seem a fair average  :!:

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I can categorically state that I paid between £1.72 and £4.60 to send out individual models to reviewers last year, so £2.95 would seem a fair average  :!:


Thats fine ratch if its an individual item but not not acceptable if you have to multiply that by 3 when ordering multiple kits. If it was 2.95 flat rate no matter how many kits you order that would be fine. But there is a bit of confusion here.

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I wonder how many people order more than one kit at a time  :shrug:

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I wonder how many people order more than one kit at a time  :shrug:


I tend to order multiple kits thats for sure, and sometimes send multiple passports.

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Don't forget you get the club kit as part of the package, so that accounts for a large part of the value in it's own right - list price for the 109E is 15.99.

Looking at loyalty schemes, with Tescos you get 1 point for every 1 pound spent, 150 points gets you a GBP1.50 voucher. So a return of 1p for every pound you spend.

Looking at Airfix. Assuming a Flying Hours exchange of a Series 6 kit worth 18.99, for 36 flying hours, taking each token from a series 1 kit (list price 5.99) would give;

36 * 5.99 = 215.64
215.64 +2.95 P&P = 218.59
18.99 / 218.59  =  0.0867  so a return of 8.6p for every pound spent.

If you use the 10% Airfix discount on purchasing the series 1 kits, then the return rises to 9.5p per pound.

That's not a bad return compared to Tesco. OK the FH exchange rate is not as generous as it was before, but if you are buying the Airfix kits anyway, then it is a bonus. I don't think it worth joining the club just for one aspect of it, but taken together the whole package is still good value.

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Ratch:400726 wrote:
I wonder how many people order more than one kit at a time  :shrug:


I order multiple kits as well. chrisM referred to one in an earlier post.

Although now I'll be ordering one kit at a time to keep P+P down.

Airfix should have set a one off cost of between £3.50 and £4.00 for P+P like most retailers do. Model wise or other.

There has been too many changes this year to the scheme and some club members were posted the renewal forms and sent them back before these changes were announced. A bit naughty really.

In the long run Airfix will see a drop in club membership as there is a reduction in value of the product, which has happened with other membership schemes when they start to change the rules once the membership money is in the till.


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How on earth do you accumulate the Flying Hours  :shrug:
I built 44 kits last year and yet only accumulated enough tokens for one kit  :(

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How on earth do you accumulate the Flying Hours  :shrug:
I built 44 kits last year and yet only accumulated enough tokens for one kit  :(


Raid the stash for the Tokens :wink: I also had two 1/24 kits with 18 tokens between them and trade spare parts and decals for tokens :!:


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<i>If you use the 10% Airfix discount on purchasing the series 1 kits, then the return rises to 9.5p per pound.</i>

Don't think so - the series 6 kit would have been 10% cheaper too so it cancels out.

The Airfix scheme is still shedloads better than the Tamiya one.

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