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Paula & Dan
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 13:12 pm Post subject: Airfix Medium Bombers Group Build - Chat |
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Welcome to the Airfix Medium Bombers Group Build, for which Dan is group build leader. This is the "Chat" thread for the GB and any reference material should be posted in the Reference Section.
Any twin- or three-engined military medium bomber kit in the Airfix range may be built for this Group Build, provided that the subject was in service from the mid-1930s to the late-1940s (so just prior to through to just after WWII). As usual, conversions and modifications are welcome provided that the aircraft kit used as a base is an Airfix kit and the version converted to retained a bombing capability, Mistels excepted.
If you wish to take part in the Group Build, you must sign up using the Usergroups link at the top of the screen (above the Log in/Log out link).
Important: Do NOT sign up as a participant of a Group Build if you only want to view the threads!
To take part in the Group Build:
Click on "Usergroups"
In the "Join a Group" section, select "Group Build - Airfix Medium Bombers"
Click "View Information"
Click on "Join Group".
The Group Build leader will then approve your membership. _________________ Airbusians. |
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Paula & Dan
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 13:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just a quick note to say that as soon as I know your subjects I'll add them to your thread titles so that we can all see at a glance what's going on.
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Heinkel51
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 14:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have a second hand Hampden for which some one has started the interior is this permitted? More than happy to strip back to components.
If not it will be Savoia – Marchetti SM79
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 14:21 pm Post subject: |
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I would have really liked to do the Boston MkIII for this, but it is still not out - and I don't fancy paying collector prices for an old one, at least not when I have the Dornier Do217 Mistel and the Do17F in the build pile. I will have a think and see if I fancy building one or both.
(I do have an Italeri 1/48 A20G and Boston MkIII so I suppose they will have to deal with my desire to build a Boston/Havoc at the moment) |
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Paula & Dan
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 15:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | have a second hand Hampden for which some one has started the interior is this permitted? More than happy to strip back to components. |
G'day Heinkel - From your description it sounds like it'd be alright - and if you're intending to strip it back anyway, then it's deffo A-ok.
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| Quote: | | I will have a think and see if I fancy building one or both. |
Have a think but we'll all encourage ya to go for it! When you've decided to go for it (as you inevitably will ) just sign up and I'll set your thread up for you.
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 15:17 pm Post subject: |
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Have a think but we'll all encourage ya to go for it! When you've decided to go for it (as you inevitably will ) just sign up and I'll set your thread up for you.
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Yes, I think it's painfully obvious after less than two months on this forum that a pattern is emerging...
I also have the 1/48 Mosquito B.XVI. What would the position be on building the Photo Recon version? |
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 15:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's a good question....
I don't know enough about the subject to know if it retained some sort of bombing capability. If it did, then it would, of course, be allowed.
If the answer's no... the answer's not so clear cut - we are allowing Mistels and such like, after all, which were converted bombers, too. My inclination is to let it in, unless one of the "big mods" has an objection, as we really should encorage as much participation as possible.
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Richard M
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 15:34 pm Post subject: |
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The PR version was a conversion from the bomber and I believe retained the bombing capability, I've seen references to it being used by the USAF for dropping chaff. I'd be inclined to say go for it, it's a conversion of a medium bomber.
(Although the Mossie could theoretically be classed as a heavy bomber as it could carry a greater bombload from Britain to Berlin than the B-17 ).
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 17:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to build something new and different.
But the only Airfix medium bomber I have is a B-26 Marauder so GUESS WHAT!! It's MARAUDER TIME!
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Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 23:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks dan, A Handley Page Hampden for me - Most likely finish will be as a Swedish AF unit and before my brother picks up the phone no I'm not doing the one flown by a Danish crew.  |
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 09:06 am Post subject: |
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Still trying to decide between Ju88, P-61 and Mossie so will get back to you  |
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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As my Hudson is spoken for, I think it's Wellington time for me unless something else is hiding away that's appropriate _________________ Bubbly! |
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 13:00 pm Post subject: |
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Not to sure but could a Stuka be acceptable? _________________ You must listen to what the baked potato say.....
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 13:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Any twin- or three-engined military medium bomber kit in the Airfix range may be built for this Group Build |
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 22:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Richard M wrote: | | Quote: | | Any twin- or three-engined military medium bomber kit in the Airfix range may be built for this Group Build |
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Posted: Sat 26 Jul 2008 23:02 pm Post subject: |
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I've amended the description of the GB to the following;
| Quote: | | Any twin- or three-engined military medium bomber kit in the Airfix range may be built for this Group Build, provided that the subject was in service from the mid-1930s to the late-1940s (so just prior to through to just after WWII). As usual, conversions and modifications are welcome provided that the aircraft kit used as a base is an Airfix kit and the version converted to retained a bombing capability, Mistels excepted. |
Hopefully this will help avoid any more confusion.
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Posted: Sun 27 Jul 2008 06:19 am Post subject: |
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| The Airfix instruction state that the P-61 could carry a bomb load of up to 6400 pounds? Does that qualify it for a Light/Medium bomber? |
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Posted: Sun 27 Jul 2008 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, that would exclude the PR Mosquito then. I only have one BXVI/PRXVI kit and I wanted to build the PR version with that, so that's out. I've already built my FBVI. The PR versions carried cameras in the bomb bay and did not have the wing stressed for bomb racks.
In that case it will be one of the Dorniers or... or....
A whacky scheme has been swimming around my brain to do something based on the Halifax and an Avro Manchester conversion set to produce a Handley-Page HP.56, the original design submitted to Specification P.13.36. This was, like the Manchester, a twin RR Vulture design. Before anyone mentions that this was in fact a heavy bomber, the original specification (which later resulted in the Halifax and Lancaster) was for a medium bomber (in recognition of the fact that the aircraft would be a twin, and somewhat smaller than the designs tendered to P.12/36 which resulted in the Stirling).
It's only a thought at the moment, mind. I'm sure there would be plenty of problems with it. |
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Posted: Sun 27 Jul 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to petition the emperor on behalf of dutch-nzer and all fans of the P-61, to allow the building of the afore-mentioned model as a part of this here group build.
With all due respect and honors, etc., etc. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Posted: Sun 27 Jul 2008 14:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I imagine the rule would have to be that as long as a bomb-carrying version was built (i.e. with hardpoints under the wings) it would be allowable. Otherwise it's a night fighter. Mods? |
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