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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan 2009 20:25 pm    Post subject: Airfix Modelling SIG Chat. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb 2009 17:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking of some things we can do as a SIG, as to my view, a SIG should be about more than just a single SMW display each year.

One of the projects I was thinking about, follows a suggestion by Jonathan, for a "What Airfix means to me" collection. We can have a group build where everyone chooses the Airfix kit which means the most to them, gives us a history of the kit, then explains why it is special and what it means to them. We can all follow each others builds and have a gallery showing all the builds and their explanations. Maybe we can link it into a show and have the models and the explanations on display, or possibly work it into a folder to be put on the table at the display for people to read through.

The second idea is rather longer term, a "2010 Icons of Airfix Calendar". We have a vote, where we each nominate our top 10 Airfix kits, which we consider iconic. The 12 with the most votes will be built by SIG members and photographed to go in an Airfix Modelling SIG calendar, which will be available for everyone to purchase.e.g like these from photobox.

What does everyone think of these ideas, and what other ideas do people have for things the SIG could do?
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb 2009 18:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sound like ideas worth developing.  

Something I've just thought about - I know each and every modeller has their own opinions on Airfix kits and many get a slating for being old/suffering from fit issues etc, but amongst many of the older kits are the 'gems' of the pile - wouldn't it be interesting to see what Airfix kits people consider to be 'Gems', and with the shared knowledge we could produce a list of hidden Airfix treasures?

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb 2009 19:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting ideas, but I don't see me buying a calendar of other folks models, however good they may turn out. Also, if it were to be a commercial project Airfix might take an interest if their name/logo were too prominent.

I'm not sure how many people would want to read anything detailed at a show, perhaps a slide show on a computer screen might work, just don't leave the laptop too near the door...

One very long term project for the SIG might be to build and photograph a finished example of every Airfix kit ever made to compliment Brian's boxart archive. The usual suspects would be added pretty quickly, the rarer ones would be more of a challenge and would make an interesting section at the nationals.

Short term we need to get some interest and members. How about an article for the next IPMS magazine to promote the SIG, the editor is always looking for good content. Something similar for a couple of modelling magazines too.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 01:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howzabout replicating the box art  
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 07:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owen wrote:
They sound like ideas worth developing.  

Something I've just thought about - I know each and every modeller has their own opinions on Airfix kits and many get a slating for being old/suffering from fit issues etc, but amongst many of the older kits are the 'gems' of the pile - wouldn't it be interesting to see what Airfix kits people consider to be 'Gems', and with the shared knowledge we could produce a list of hidden Airfix treasures?

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This is a start:

http://gregers.7.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=4992&highlight=gems



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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 07:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayup Matt...

Nice to see you here so early...

Will you be joining the SIG ?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 07:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting ideas, but I don't see me buying a calendar of other folks models, however good they may turn out.


I wouldn't be surprised to see such a calendar sell well.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 08:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble is with the 'Gems' (I hate that phrase, sounds so silly!) is that what one person likes and would say is a great kit, another would rubbish it.

For example I once saw the Westland Scout is a 'gem' but try building one and getting the window piece to fit or the skids to line up. It's a horrible kit -but of course that's my opinion.

As a suggestion why not pick the best sellers? We don't have access to sales figures but we can see how many years a kit has been on sale for. You will also be able to see if kits made in the last 20 years have regularily been in the catalogues. The unpopular kits are soon dropped -FMA Pucara anyone?


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 08:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A problem that I see with both the 'gems' and the best sellers is that they're all kits we've seen before.  I think it would be nice to mix it up with a few of the less often seen kits - we've certainly had a number of them on this site already and I'm sure that we could drum up a few to display.

Variety is the answer maybe - a few of the best known, a few of the oddities will give visitors the chance to point out the ones they've built, plus see some of the ones they haven't.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 09:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayup Adrian...

Maybe the first display could be named 'The World Of Airfix'  and as you say, try and get as broad a range of kits as is produced as possible.

THAT display, IMO, needs the likes of JE*J, Bf109, 110 Saturn V 1a 24th Spit, Anne Boleyn, Julius Ceasar, etc as can be procured.

Then, displays like Farnborough, need to be tailored to Aircraft. spit, hurri, lanc, stirling, Mustang, etc, etc.

Somewhere like, say, Bovington needs Targ... (sorry, force of habit), tracked Vehicles, and so on... but the Biggie at Telford needs again, as broad a spectrum of Airfixes output that spans the decades....
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course Airfix arn't just aircraft or British kits. Over the years they've re-released many kits of other countries in their boxes. Countries such as France, USA, South Korea, Turkey, Japan to mention just a few.

Although these arn't Airfix kits as such they are still a part of their history and should be included.

How about a sprinkling of kits like these on a display table.....




















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Ayup Bri...

Agree 100%

Just don't let Arni near the mini or freedom fighter, 'cos it'll be scratched into something totally outrageous ! Nige....
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I compiled an incomplete    list of what's been in the catalogue over the last ten years (OK, I was bored)    and I think these were the ever-presents  

    01027 1/72 Hawker Typhoon 1b
    01038 1/72 Curtiss Kittyhawk P-40E
    01064 1/72 Focke Wulf Fw190D
    01071 1/72 Supermarine Spitfire Mk I
    01072 1/72 Messerschmitt Bf109G-6
    01303 1/76 M4 Sherman Mk I Tank
    01304 1/76 Churchill Mk VII Tank
    01305 1/76 25pdr Field Gun
    01306 1/76 Sturmgeschutz III Assault Gun 75mm
    01308 1/76 PzKpfw VI Tiger I Tank
    01309 1/76 Universal Bren Gun Carrier & 6 pdr Anti Tank Gun
    01311 1/76 SdKfz 234 German Armoured Car
    01320 1/76 Scorpion Tank
    01705 1/76 German Infantry
    01716 1/76 US Marines
    01723 1/72 British Paratroops
    02003 1/72 Bristol Beaufighter TF.X
    02009 1/72 Avro Anson I
    02027 1/72 Bristol Blenheim MkIV
    02042 1/72 Hawker Hurricane MkI/IIb
    02053 1/72 Westland Lysander
    02072 1/72 BAe Harrier GR3
    02082 1/72 Hawker Hurricane MkI
    02088 1/72 Lockheed Lightning P-38F/H
    02302 1/76 Buffalo Amphibian & Jeep
    02303 1/76 SdKfz 7 88mm Gun & Tractor
    02305 1/76 Chieftain Tank
    02307 1/76 Centurion Tank
    02308 1/76 PzKpfw IV Panzer IV Tank
    02312 1/76 German Reconnaisance Set SdKfz 222/Kubelwagen
    02314 1/76 Bofors Gun & Tractor
    02318 1/76 White Half Track M3
    03015 1/72 Saab Viggen
    03019 1/72 De Havilland Mosquito Mk II/VI/XVIII
    03043 1/72 Westland Sea King
    03062 1/72 De Havilland Mosquito NF.XIX/J30
    03205 1/600 HMS Fearless
    03302 1/76 RAF Refuelling Set Matador Tanker & Bedford QL Tanker
    03304 1/76 RAF Emergency Set K2 Ambulance & K6 Fire Tender
    03380 1/72 Airfield Control Tower
    03381 1/76 Forward Command Post
    03382 1/76 Jungle Outpost
    04100 1/48 Supermarine Spitfire Mk Vb
    04101 1/48 Messerschmitt Bf109F
    04202 1/600 HMS Hood
    04204 1/600 Bismarck
    04208 1/600 HMS Ark Royal
    04212 1/600 HMS Belfast
    05007 1/72 Consolidated Catalina PBY-5A
    06001 1/72 Short Sunderland III
    06182 1/144 BAC Aerospatiale Concorde
    06704 1/76 Gun Emplacement
    06706 1/76 Coastal Defence Fort
    07001 1/72 Boeing Superfortress B-29
    07002 1/72 Short Stirling B.I/II
    08002 1/72 Avro Lancaster B.I/III
    08174 1/144 Boeing 747
    09252 1/180 HMS Victory 1765
    09253 1/130 Cutty Sark 1869
    09256 1/144 Wasa 1628
    10280 1/72 German E Boat
    12001 1/24 Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia
    12002 1/24 Messerschmitt Bf109E
    14001 1/24 North American Mustang P-51D
    14002 1/24 Hawker Hurricane MkI
    16001 1/24 Focke Wulf Fw190A/F
    18002 1/24 Junkers Stuka Ju87B-2

Of course. this is not a definitive list, but just a starting point for conversation  

Another idea    What about displaying the 2009 Catalogue  
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayup Ratch..

Is the Mossie in it?

I may have to steal one if it is !
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 14:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Dodge weapons carrier made up, just needs a coat of paint. Started back in the 70's and it is the Airfix issue still have the instruction sheet as proof.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 14:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have the Dodge weapons carrier made up, just needs a coat of paint. Started back in the 70's and it is the Airfix issue still have the instruction sheet as proof.

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Ayup Bruv...

Spoken like a true Airfix fan. NEVER throw any instructions out whatever happens ! Well done !
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb 2009 14:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They came in  very handy when I wanted to make a 1/48 scale weapons carrier

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Ayup Bruv..

Yes, sounds good. but then Airfix Destructions can be used for more then their original purpose. and especially i think the older ones, where the parts are named...

@RichM...

As for other types of display, there could be themed sub groups, like all the classic ships, small and Large, in an 'Explorers' theme. 'Superkits' another, 'Napoleonics' and figures, 'Conversions' if anyones butchered a figure or two, as well, and so on. The Dioramas should make exceptional display pieces... plus examples of  toys such as Ironing bo... sorry, Flight Deck, and the diving submarine, if anyone has one, the disc shooting pill-boxes would all add interest... plus Literachewer and the like..
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Something else we could do is a sort of 'Airfix Turns Full Circle'. As it's Airfix's 60th year of producing kits we could do the kits that have either had the tool modified or replaced with another Airfix or other brand tool alongside the original kit.

For example;

Hart - Demon
Dakota - AC47 -DC3 (Italeri)
Bronco 'A' - Bronco 'D'
B17 'Bit o lace' - B17 (Acadamy)
Hurricane IVP - Hurricane I/II (1970's) - new 2009 tool
Spit IX 'JEJ' - New 2009 Spit IX
Mig15 - New 2009 Mig15
Concorde prototype - Concorde production
Sherman - Sherman Calliope - Sherman Crab
Churchill - Churchill Crocodile
Wellington - Wellington (MPM)
VC10 - K2 Tanker.
Plus others.

You get the idea.


Another thing Airfix is well known for is catering for the person who likes dioramas or wargames. Maybe we could;

a/ Do a little railway diorama using locos and rollingstock plus a couple of buildings.

b/ A miniature wargame with something unusual such as Romans/Ancient Britons fighting over the Airfix Roman Fort. Or US Civil War, AWI, WW1, WW2 with the Polyprop tanks. Whatever really, it could even be finished off with a tape measure and some dice. It doesn't have to be that big.

Just a couple of ideas.

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