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Richard M · Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2009 14:15 pm Post subject: Alan Hall Memorial GB - Chat.

Welcome to the multi-forum Alan Hall Memorial Group Build. This is the "Chat" thread for the GB and any reference material should be posted in the Reference Section. Richard M will be the GB Leader for the ATF GB. The GB will run from 31/1/09 to 31/7/09.

This GB is to pay tribute to Alan Hall. In the ATF GB, any conversion using an Airfix kit as it's base which Alan authored in the Airfix Magazine is permitted to be built. No modern resin, photo-etch or vac-form canopies are permitted. Conversions should be "Old School", utilising balsa wood, dope, talcum powder, crash molding and other scratchbuilding techniques.

If you are an ATF member and wish to take part in the Group Build on the ATF, you must sign up using the Usergroups link at the top of the screen (above the Log in/Log out link).

Important: Do NOT sign up as a participant of a Group Build if you only want to view the threads!

To take part in the Group Build:

Click on "Usergroups"

In the "Join a Group" section, select "Group Build - Alan Hall Memorial GB"

Click "View Information"

Click on "Join Group".

Your membership will then be approved.

If you are a member of another forum, and are taking part in the GB on your forum, you are most welcome to post work in progress reports in the guest wip thread. We would also love to see your finished model in the guest gallery. At the present time, I believe you will have to join the ATF in order to post in the GB - I will be looking at the forum software to see if this can be changed for this GB.
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Richard M · Posted: Sat 31 Jan 2009 13:26 pm Post subject:

The GB is officially running if anyone wants to join - don't let the talc and dope put you off

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daniel7891 · Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009 14:49 pm Post subject:

I dont have the guts to take converting anything but, what is dope?. Its been puzzling me when people talk about it
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fluff75 · Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009 15:07 pm Post subject:

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daniel7891 · Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009 16:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that
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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

I'd like to have a go at the P-40 to P-36 conversion, and Peebeep has kindly offered to share the article with me. Just need to come up with a colour scheme. I'm thinking Finnish, or possibly Dutch.

wookie · White Star Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Dorset

Only just seen this thread and am tempted once I've done the Jetstream for the FAA GB. I'd like to have another go at the Wasp conversion (did it back in the 70s - not very well I might add) but have long since lost the magazine in which it was described. I know that Dave Cov scanned a whole load of the warship articles which I downloaded, but I haven't seen that one at all. Is it available anywhere?

peebeep · Guest

Wookie, PM me an e-mail address and I'll organise a copy of the article for you.

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feanor · Posted: Sat 21 Feb 2009 20:09 pm Post subject:

XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

At the risk of transferring the 'dope' epithet to myself, can anyone tell me roughly what the proportions of dope to talc might be? I have no idea what sort of consistency to shoot for.

wookie · White Star Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Dorset

hewman100 · Posted: Fri 06 Mar 2009 15:47 pm Post subject:

I read in a SAM on the subject that the consistency, at least for the first application, should be similar to that of bread dough '923.

Just out of interest, how many people over the various modelling forums are participating in this?
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Ratch · Posted: Fri 06 Mar 2009 17:45 pm Post subject:

Brews · Posted: Fri 06 Mar 2009 21:04 pm Post subject:

Oi, I'm keeping updates on here, too!
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gerry · Posted: Fri 06 Mar 2009 22:42 pm Post subject:

'Conversions should be "Old School", utilising balsa wood, dope, talcum powder, crash molding and other scratchbuilding techniques'.

This is my model collection you are talking about. I wonder if a restoration would be acceptable for this group build. I have a Demon (or it might have been a Hart) that I once converted to a Nimrod (obviously not the big one with jet engines - that would involve a rain forest of balsa and enough dope to fill Glastonbury - it is one that would benefit from some restoration, 'old school' style like everything else I do.

Ratch · Posted: Fri 06 Mar 2009 23:58 pm Post subject:

Brews · Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009 01:46 am Post subject:

gerry · Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009 07:55 am Post subject:

Brews
There was a conversion article in an old Airfix magazine, probably by Alan Hall (I need to check) - the early small format magazine. I can find and scan it if you like. As I recall, the main problem was in straightening the stagger out of the wings. That was in the days before anyone produced a Fury. It also needs a lump of something under the fuselage, hence balsa and dope, though I would never use that now, no matter how 'old school'.

gerry · Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009 10:31 am Post subject:

Brews - found it from May 1971, but as has happened before, memory is not up to the job. The article is by Alan Hall (at least I got that right) but the conversion is from a vacform (Rareplane) Fury, not from the Airfix Demon or Hart. Now, of course, there is the Matchbox Fury or the 1/48 Airfix Fury, if you can find either, as a starting point. The dope and talc combination on balsa were used to extend the wings. The undercarriage came from the Demon. So what I did involved rather more surgery than I remembered. I will have to have a look to see what I did with it and how accurately I bothered to do it.