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PostPosted: Sun 10 Oct 2010 00:46 am 
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Hey all, I just received the Airfix Chi-Ha tank. Problem is, I'm not too well versed in Humbrol markings, nor are Humbrol paints common where I'm at. It's either Model Master, Pollyscale, or Tamiya.

What Tamiya paints are a good match for painting the Chi-Ha?


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I believe it's my turn to answer this one.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... umbrol.htm

Follow that link and you should find one of several very good charts that give equivalents for Humbrol colors, among other things.

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Problem is, it only has the Tamiya equivalent for chocolate brown (XF-10), but nothing for Uniform Green and Brown Mustard.

Will Panzer colors work for the Chi-Ha, too? Except for the bright yellow streaks that some of them seem to have, of course.


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Sometimes with cross referencing you also can find an aproximate color...I mean : if for one color is a gunze color given you can look at the gunze color and sometimes there they give you a Tamiya equivalent...
Will have a look, somewhere I have another reference chart...


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Here it is...
http://www.paint4models.com/paintchart/ ... 101a.html#

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Okay, since I jumped in with a not-helpful suggestion, I think I owe it to you to tell you what I do at this point in order to paint that tank.  I'd go to this site:

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10033610

and put "chi-ha tank" into the search box and hit it.  Be sure to change the "category" to "military."  Now look at the kits there.  You can click on the Fine Molds Chi-Ha or one of the other and find the instructions right there. Click on the painting instructions and you will find alternatives (usually Tamiya or Gunze) to the Humbrol colors.

I hope that explanation is clear enough. If not, let me know.  :D

Edit:  Here's a direct link to a Chi-Ha

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10051835t2/60/2

and it will help when you search to "uncheck" the "don't show sold out" box.

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Maybe this photo will help:

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In a polish webshop I also found this set :
http://www.jadarhobby.pl/gunze-sangyo-c ... 14357.html
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Chris FFZ wrote:
Maybe this photo will help:
I think I can find a few matches for these colors, maybe with a little mixing here and there.

Thanks for all the info, guys! I've never built a tank with these colors before, so it's all new to me.  :oops:


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Did the Japanese army use a standard colour system or was it very much whatever came to hand :?:

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Here´s a PDF on Chi-Ha colours.
https://ipmstoronto.files.wordpress.com ... y-low1.pdf
and colour plates of different colour schemes
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/j ... inhoto.php

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My primary colour reference for AFVs is via this link :-

http://matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/ ... s-Germ.htm

There's also a brief discussion of Japanese AFV colours here :-

http://matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/ ... 2japan.htm

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derwisj wrote:
In a polish webshop I also found this set :
http://www.jadarhobby.pl/gunze-sangyo-c ... 14357.html
I also found this shop, the decal manufacturer is ARMO. I've just ordered all three sets of Japanese vehicle decals & am awaiting delivery. ARMO also seem to do a lot of resin kits & a quick look shows Japanese tanks as well (in 1/72 as well as other scales). try http://www.jadar.com.pl/armo/armo72-a.htm
It is best to contact them directly via their 'contact us' on their home page if you can't find it in the e-store The decal packs also seem to contain camouflage/painting instructions & they are certainly cheaper from this shop than some others. I'm going to use them on the IBG Japanese tanks that are available & future releases.
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Be very careful about using the colour suggestions in those sites. Much of the information there is very old, now inaccurate, and repeated one from another. This following came from 'Japanese Armour Colours A Primer', N. Millman 2012.

There were four main colours in use usually three at any one time, occasionally all four. The basic colour was khaki, a yellowish mustard brown to faded olive drab. Then 'earth colour', very dark slightly reddish brown, been described as 'very dark chocolate brown'. Then 'parched grass colour', a yellowish, sandy colour or pale greenish ochre. This is the colour usually used as stripes, not the bright yellow as advised in kit instructions. Last is 'grass color', a dark green lighter than RAF dark Green. Became more olive after UV exposure. Looks bright against the 'earth colour'. After 1942 less saturated and more olive.

Early scheme, large areas of earth brown and khaki crossed with broad bands of parched grass outlined with black. Mid war style basic khaki with cloud shaped areas of earth brown, parched grass or green. A variation has all four colours. Late war, basic khaki, larger areas of green with smaller patches of earth brown and parched grass.

I have only reproduced these colours as suggested in the above source using Humbrol and Revell paints.
Khaki: Revell 86 or 9 x H84 + 2 x H86.
Earth brown; 3 x H33 + " x H153. H 173 might do for faded.
Grass green: 6 x H116 + 3 x H117 + 2 x H102. At a push you could use H86 on its own but that is really not deep in hue.
Parched grass: 9+ H84 + 2 x H86. For very faded then H83 on its own but again it lacks the depth of colour.

If you want a copy them go to http://www.aviationofjapan.com/ for more information.


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I have just received the ARMO decals I mentioned in my previous comment. WOW what service I only ordered them on 04/05/17 & they came 20 minutes ago.....from Poland!!! Considering I ordered something on ebay from UK on 03/05/17 and STILL waiting :crybaby:

The actual decals are extremely well printed, I can see very little carrier film (actually I can't see any), in each set there is enough to do 14 vehicles, the instruction sheet is clear (but in black and white (for colour guide see http://www.jadar.com.pl/armo/armo72decals-a.htm).

For the full set of 3 I paid 16.44EUR = £14.51 which I found cheaper than other places (although ARMO stuff is a little thin on the ground)

I am now considering the possibility of purchasing one of their vehicles to see if it's the same quality (I'll have to speak to 'er indors' to see if she'll give me some pocket money :help: )

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