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PostPosted: Sun 06 Feb 2011 00:00 am 
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I am about to start my next kit (now my concorde is finished) its the Wallace & Gromit Anti-Pesto Van....it would help if the following could be answered, although I asking about the W&G kit I think these questions can equally be applied to any other car kit:

I intend to paint it using my Airbrush (first time), I hoped it would be a relatively easy one to try airbrushing with because of the largish flat areas...

The instructions seem not to give any indication of the bodywork colour, I assume they expect it to be left unpainted. It also looks like there is not a single paint that matches the colour and mixing will be required......any ideas on the colours and ratio would help ?

The underside appears to be left same as the body work, but I don't think this would be realistic enough - I anticipate some steel/silver/grey colour then heavily weathered with darker/black colours .... any ideas for this sort of thing would be appreciated.

Also the exhaust is suggested to be painted in HU171 antique bronze and other kits I have seen suggest black for the exhaust....I have never seen a real exhaust in these colours so any suggestions for more realistic exhaust finish/techniques would be appreciated. I expect again steel colour with rust weathering applied.

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I would go for black or a very dark grey for the underside to simulate underseal. This would have been applied over the paint to provide protection against stone chips & rust etc.  It would be black when freshly applied & fade gradully as it aged.

Ahh underseal. Brings back memories of touching the stuff up on my old rust bucket Cortina 20 odd years ago. Had a tin of thick black tar like stuff that I painted over a panel that I had welded over a hole in the floor. Talk about give you wrist ache  :D


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PostPosted: Sun 06 Feb 2011 22:45 pm 
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My A35 van, circa 1961, was a light blue-grey. The underside was 90% black/grey underseal with the other parts in grey primer. New exhausts were painted either black or silver which lasted about 5 minutes and then changed to a dark rust colour! You could of course add a go-faster chrome trim to the tailpipe.
As with most BMC cars of the time there wasn't actually a lot of floor left in the van when I acquired it in 1971 although good thick carpet stopped things (and passengers) from falling through. It was only the underseal that held it all together!
Having drifted back in time, in answer to your questions, underside flat areas - tyre colour (nearly black), engine mounting areas - grey primer, exhaust - nearer black than rust, and body work will have to be trial and error against a good likeness. A lot of web references vary wildly but some photos of the original film model  can be found by searching on this site.

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I would ask: are you trying to recreate the van as in the W&G film or the van in real life?
The film van is not painted or detailed like the van its supposed to depict.

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fred:297798 wrote:
I would ask: are you trying to recreate the van as in the W&G film or the van in real life?
The film van is not painted or detailed like the van its supposed to depict.


That could be interesting as I haven't really thought of that. I expect that in the film the underside was not seen so colour was not an issue. A bit of artistic license is probably called for to make it kind of realistic but at same time not too different to the film finish for the parts actually visible in the film. I believe in the film the finish was rather dirty and battered looking which I think would be more interesting and challanging to achieve rather than the pristine shiny finish that the kit instructions appear to direct.

...but on reflection I think what I am really asking is how to simulate weathered and dirty steel and how to obtain a realistic looking exhaust.....regardless of the W&G kit currently being constructed.....

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