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Disgusting.

It looks like HMS Repulse and Prince of Wales have also been subject to salvage.

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The photo is not Exeter, but HMS Encounter. The subject of the article is most sad. I hope the punishment of those responsible provides a deterrent.


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I must be missing the original part of this thread. To add my "two cents worth", regarding the topic. A couple of years back, our Cross of Remembrance, was attacked by Graffiti Vandals, (and this is near the centre of Adelaide), they caught them, but besides a "slap on the wrist", not much was done to them.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2016 07:41 am 
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If you click on the underlined "Disgusting" you'll see this article:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/scien ... c55b1441cf


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The articles only mention the expensive bronzes etc, but Medical steel is also in high demand. The production of steel involves a huge amount of Oxygen, and anything produced after 1945 has been contaminated with ionisation, so the only "clean" steel that can be melted and re-used is tied up in sunken ships, the biggest collection of which that is not a war grave is in Scapa Flow from the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet in 1919. When Musashi was discovered, I was pretty sure that it would be used in this way. It seems to be old news, but I thought that PoW and Repulse would be too far offshore to be subject to such "salvage". However, the Ferengi of this planet have no respect for anything if it can make money.

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One has to ask how a whole ship can vanish :scratch: Surely the whole thing wasn't lifted from the seabed and transported to some secret scrapyard for dissection :shrug: And if the robbers took parts from the wreck site there'd be something left there :think:
Of course, any desecration should be prosecuted, but this sounds very James Bond :roll:

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They would have been cut into pieces in situ Ratch...

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Just waiting for the first person to suggest it was the same UFO that snatched MH370 ...

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They would have been cut into pieces in situ Ratch...
Of course, it could just be the Press over-simplifying (or dumbing down), because they haven't totally vanished and there are bits left on the sites :juggle:

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Heaven forfend that the press do that..

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The article suggests they used explosives to dismantle the ships then winched the bits up. However it's being done, very disrespectful, some people have very short memories when e Japanese ruled the area, if it wasn't for these brave men then it would be a very different world

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Thanks James, very interesting article. I wonder why HMAS Perth was not declared a War Grave, especially after what happened to her survivors.
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This article was linked to in a similar thread on Britmodeller.http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-13/outrage-as-warship-grave-stripped-by-salvagers/5156320 Its obviously been going on for some time & I would guess a fair bit of blind eye turning going on. Explosives, big barge with big crane with a grab, nothing to it. Bit by bit.
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Thanks James, very interesting article. I wonder why HMAS Perth was not declared a War Grave, especially after what happened to her survivors.
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Not quite sure what happened to Perth's survivors (Japanese Prison camp?), but yes, I'm at a loss as to why it wasn't a war grave. It was my expectation that all ships that were sunk during the war (that had sailors still in them) were were graves. I was blissfully unaware of any bureaucratic process.

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I have read the book, and they had a Documentary series, where they took descendants, of particular servicemen, (Australian), to visit the graves, etc. A lot of Perth's crew, (and those of I think it was USS Houston), survived, only to be, beheaded, as they crawled onto the beaches. Those that weren't found there way onto the Burma Railway. Those that survived that were taken back to Japan. On the way the transport was Torpedoed by an American Submarine, the survivors, depending on who picked them up, got rescued by the Sub, or continued there journey to Japan. A few survived the war, but at least 3 of the remaining crew members, ended up being killed in a bombing raid 3 days before, the end of the war. So sad.
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That's just tragic. I went aboard HMAS Perth (DDG) in the mid '70s. Naturally, there were photos of the namesake ...

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