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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016 16:57 pm 
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Noticing a question about where Airfix kits are produced on the latest releases thread got me to thinking about just how many kits you could get in the 40 foot ISO container from India? Is there any empty space in the container? How many containers arrive at Hornby's warehouse for each release? How many containers, or what portion of a container load are kits for the UK?
Just idle thoughts whilst the paint on the latest build dries.


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016 17:25 pm 
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I suppose..work out the average size (width, height, length) of a box using the sizes of the kits in the range..then divide the possible M³ of the Container with the result.?

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016 19:28 pm 
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Ah, but do they arrive from India already boxed or are they boxed once they reach the UK? How high can you stack kits before the ones on the bottom start to suffer?


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Good questions.
One could assume they are boxed..but then how high could they be stacked? :think:
Maybe they would add some sort of shelving to seperate the piles to reduce any pressure damage? Which, if they did, would reduce any available space for actual kits.

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From a 'hint' on Airfix' website a couple of years ago, the Shackleton came in bagged but not boxed. X number of bagged kits to a brown carton box.
I think all the kits are boxed up in the UK.

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I'd guess you're right Fred; there are instructions and decals to add to the bagged kit - and I expect it makes more sense for the decals to go straight to Airfix from Cartograf, rather than via India or China.

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So now what Needs to be known is, how big the Brown box and how many kits fit into one

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All you need to know about containers here.

You can't ignore the container's dimensions. You need to know the size of your box, because you might not be able to fill the container with the boxes. e.g. width of 2.347m means you would get a row of 3 x 0.6m wide boxes inside with some width to spare.

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I've received orders from Airfix in boxes with markings which indicated they originally came from India. The smallest box was about 10 x 12 x 18 inches, the largest was about 20 inch cube.
I would reckon that smaller boxes are contained in larger boxes and the larger boxes might be a standard size.

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fred wrote:
The smallest box was about 10 x 12 x 18 inches, the largest was about 20 inch cube.
I would reckon that smaller boxes are contained in larger boxes and the larger boxes might be a standard size.

So now whose going to do the maths ? :)

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Supporting Fred's post above, there is food for thought in the pictures from a JBO to Margate:
http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=20069&start=100 (scroll down a fair way to the warehouse pictures).

Visible markings on the boxes stating 20, 21 of 189 etc. give a clue to the number of boxes in a shipment. Or maybe that number refers to just the number of boxes of one type of kit in the shipment.

Very rough order of magnitude calculation: Assuming a box is 40cm on a side and the container 2.4m by 2.4m by 12m, the container will fit 6 by 6 by 30 boxes: 1080 boxes. As this is rather more than the number 189 in the photo, it supports the latter position that there are many types of kit per shipment ( I assume that Hornby don't share a container with other companies.) Of course, there might be model railway goods from Hornby,
and Scalextric sets in a shipment from China, but perhaps not from India...)

Consider a smaller (series 1) kit; assuming the sprues are 20cm by 10cm by 2cm, that's 2 by 4 by 20 per box: 160 kits. A larger kit might be double that in size - 40cm by 20cm by 4 cm: 20 kits per box.

Let's say there are ~1000 40cm cube boxes per container. That's 160,000 small kits, or 20000 larger kits per container. Ball park, of course.

Pontification over...

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fred wrote:
I've received orders from Airfix in boxes with markings which indicated they originally came from India. The smallest box was about 10 x 12 x 18 inches, the largest was about 20 inch cube.
I would reckon that smaller boxes are contained in larger boxes and the larger boxes might be a standard size.

The instructions state they're printed in India and the shiny boxes are apparently of a type only made in India.


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The unfortunate-ness of someone else helps the sums. Someone had a container broken into and part of the consignment stolen. The container held 2500 kits. However, looking at what these kits were and their boxes, they are of the larger Airfix boxes size. So, extrapolating, and reckoning on more smaller kits I think a shipping container would hold around 4000 kits.

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Which poses the following questions -

When is the next shipment?
How good is the security?
Who is get away driver?

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Who is get away driver?
I'd suggest getting Rowan Atkinson as the getaway driver; he's the fastest I've ever seen with a full-length wagon!

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Well this pic is of my stash during my house move a few years ago

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There's about 800 unmade kits in these boxes, they are the standard shipping size of 18"x18"x30" and in this photo they're stacked two deep to the back wall. The 20' Sea-Can I have, I could pack five boxes wide and three high into it. It left some space at the top and down one side. The space at the top happens to coincide with the depth of a standard wooden pallet :wink:

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kitnut617 wrote:
There's about 800 unmade kits in these boxes,

:shock: :shock: :thumb:

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016 19:23 pm 
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Paul H wrote:
kitnut617 wrote:
There's about 800 unmade kits in these boxes,

:shock: :shock: :thumb:


:lol:

And I have about 250+ models built, there's a thread on here about how I packed them for the same move

Edit: right here

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5983&hilit=packing

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That has to be the ultimate "how to" on packing models :notworthy: :notworthy:

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