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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2012 17:58 pm 
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Cannot understand why Airfix are sticking with 1/32nd scale car kits. This scale is a out of sinc. with the 1/24th scale that just about every other mainstream manufacturer uses as their smaller scale.
As far as I know only the now long gone Pyro and Aurora used to make car kits in 1/32nd scale.
Airfix brought out the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 in 1/24th scale way back in the sixties and also the Toyota 2000 that featured in a Bond film, but did not do much else apart from repops of other car kits from American moulds.
They could do the JB DB5 and do it well as a 1/24th scale retooled kit. In a larger scale like 1/12th the JB DB5 could be absolutely stunning, particularly as the car featured again in the latest JB film Skyfall. I think that Airfix could make a killing with this iconic film car.

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I think there could be room for both as the original models could be introduced as 'Classic Cars' and more modern vehicles and competition cars introduced to 1/24.  When the original range of 1/32 classics have all been released they could retool those now missing such as the Capri along with new subjects in 1/32 such as the Morris Minor/1000 series.

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1/32 was initially popular as it fitted in well with the UK slot racing scene - also 1/32. I seem to recall that Airfix were tied up with MRRC (Model Road Racing Cars - slot car kits etc) for a whole which would have reinforced the link.
And now, with them being part of the Hornby family, they still have slot racing in their blood.

Interestingly, 1/24 was always the scale of choice for US slot racing. With the US being a bigger market, the UK's penchant for 1/32 fell slightly by the wayside.

I still like 1/32 as a scale. Much more of a challenge to get the detail right but satisfying when you do. Or so I'm told...


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Cannot understand why Airfix are sticking with 1/32nd scale car kits.


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Jonathan:494029 wrote:
Noel Smith:494011 wrote:
Cannot understand why Airfix are sticking with 1/32nd scale car kits.
They sell?

Good answer - Airfix are still aiming at the pocket money market (hence the emphasis on starter kits) - they know they could not afford to compete with likes of Tamiya and Esci in the 1/24 market without really upping their game.  At 1/32 they can get away with, for example the non-existant suspension on the latest range of cars and the lack of separate tyres, that are expected on most 1/24 kits.

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Ive found that 1/32 scale cars can be very useful in 1/35 military dioramas, either as technicals/converted vehicles, or even as wrecks or civilian vehicles, the scale difference is only a few mm. (I was looking to use a Airfix Mini is some sort of post apocalyptic scene soon)
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I like 1:32 scale cars. They're a good size. They're not Matchbox-sized, and you can have lots without need an awful lot of display space. And they look good. OTOH, the one 1:24 car that Humbrol made (not counting Airfix's DB.5) was the Bentley Blower, and it's very, very good. I wish I had one.

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Historically, there's quite a few Airfix cars that were issued in 1/24, just that very few were tooled up by Airfix and none are current in the catalogue.

I was looking at the Fiesta the other day at SMW, it looks rather good.

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Brews:494100 wrote:
the one 1:24 car that Humbrol made (not counting Airfix's DB.5) was the Bentley Blower, and it's very, very good. I wish I had one.

That was 1/12 Bruce  :wink:  and I have one  :twisted:

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I would be happy if they just scaled up the 1/32 kits, to 1/24. They would have been simple, yes, but what a nice startingpoint for some fun modelcarbuilding.
At the same time also making the 1/32 scale originals for those likeing the smaller scale.
They might even just make bodykits for those wishing those for slotcars.

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I would be happy if they just scaled up the 1/32 kits, to 1/24. They would have been simple, yes, but what a nice startingpoint for some fun modelcarbuilding.
At the same time also making the 1/32 scale originals for those likeing the smaller scale.
Just how many would be prepared to pay £20+ for such a simple kit in 1/24 scale when a Tamiya is not that much more. OK so Airfix could charge less for a 1/24th kit but that could just lose them sales of the 1/32nd
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They might even just make bodykits for those wishing those for slotcars.
How many of those would they sell - most serious slotcar racers probably use lightweight vacformed bodies, not fragile injection plastic ones.

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Ratch:494124 wrote:
Brews:494100 wrote:
the one 1:24 car that Humbrol made (not counting Airfix's DB.5) was the Bentley Blower, and it's very, very good. I wish I had one.

That was 1/12 Bruce  :wink:  and I have one  :twisted:


There was (is) a 1/24 version in the Heller catalogue.

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IanW:494629 wrote:
Bugace:494594 wrote:
I would be happy if they just scaled up the 1/32 kits, to 1/24. They would have been simple, yes, but what a nice startingpoint for some fun modelcarbuilding.
At the same time also making the 1/32 scale originals for those likeing the smaller scale.
Just how many would be prepared to pay £20+ for such a simple kit in 1/24 scale when a Tamiya is not that much more. OK so Airfix could charge less for a 1/24th kit but that could just lose them sales of the 1/32nd
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They might even just make bodykits for those wishing those for slotcars.
How many of those would they sell - most serious slotcar racers probably use lightweight vacformed bodies, not fragile injection plastic ones.


The last one first!
Not all slotcar driving is competition. There is plenty of slotcarfabricators, using Polyurethanresin bodies!! They make unique bodies, insted of the most competetive bodies. Take a look at Ocar's kits. Some even have whitemetalbumpers, photoetched parts, and thick heavy bodies. Also Onethirtysecond have plenty nice heavy resin  slotbodies. No I know this is for special interested builders, but there is a market.
Yes, if Airfix scaled up theire 1/32 classics, to 1/24 they would be very simple. But there are plenty equal simple kits of daily drivers made in Japan. Some of us actually like building cars from our own youth, or childhood. The fact that Airfix alredy have decent shaped bodies in 1/32, that probably would look close to as good in 1/24, would give builders the possibillities to build Heralds, Escorts, and TR4. Some even fancy the Viva HA. Then there might be other moulds as well, that have survived the time. If the castings is as good as on the 1/32 kits, it would not harm Airfix. Not as long the kitbox tells it is simple kits. Call them Skill 1, or 1.5. My self would love all the sedans, both 4, and 2 doors. It might not be the Youngest builders buying these kits, but then, I don't buy any Imprezas, or Lancers, as they are of no interest to me. So what is my 1000 + collection of cars including? Some Porsches, Mercedes, VW's and '80s or older japanese cars. And hundreds of AMT, and MPC kits. Lots of not that nicly casted european classics, like Volvo Amazon, Volvo 544, and P1800. Alfas from the 50's, even sedans. Ford Cortina MkI, and Anglia 105. Peugeot 404 sedan, the list goes on. I pay 80 +/- euro for resinkits that is not more detailed, and more difficult to build, then a 1/24 Airfix classic would have been.  20£ for a 1/24 Escsort, Cortina, Zodiac, Capri, Maxi, Marina, or whom have survived of the old 1/32 masters, are just pennies from heaven.
But!! Of course I'm not a marketing guy, just a modeller who know how to use alclad, how to scratch, and have a partbox bigger then most builders collection.

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Bugace:494737 wrote:
But!! Of course I'm not a marketing guy


There's the rub. I doubt you'd convince the appropriate suits that it would be a commercially viable proposition. Great idea, though. Apart from American muscle cars, for which the market seems insatiable, the only kits of mainstream cars in 1/24 that I can recall seeing are resin mouldings, with the odd exception like the Tamiya Mini.

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peebeep:494739 wrote:
the only kits of mainstream cars in 1/24 that I can recall seeing are resin mouldings, with the odd exception like the Tamiya Mini.
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There are many more from Tamiya, Revell, Fujimi and others like the VW new and old Beetle, new and old Mini, Citroen 2CV, Fiat 500,  Trabant, some Toyota's, Nissans, Ford's, BMW's, Citroen's and many more. I do miss cars like Fiat 127, 128, the old Skoda Rapid, Volvo Amazon or 240, Opel Ascona, Rekord, or Kadett. All cars that formed the carpark in my childhood.

I must confess I do like 1/24 more than 1/32 models, but if Airfix would make the old 1/32 cars again as normal models instead of starter sets, I would not hesitate to buy many of the old ones.

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I was thinking along the lines of Ford Sierra/Vauxhall Cavalier type subject matter. The ones you list as available are definitely mainstream, but I would suggest also iconic, that sort of sets them apart somehow. I suppose with a bit of butchery many of the race/rally kits that are available could be turned into their more boring everyday brethren!

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I was thinking along the lines of Ford Sierra/Vauxhall Cavalier type subject matter.
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Tamiya did had a racing version of the Sierra. I guess it's hard to find these days.

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Hatch or saloon? I used to own a Sapphire. I'm only just really getting into auto models, so no, Ive no recollection of seeing a Tam Sierra. I'm guessing it was probably a Cosworth.

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Try a look on ebay, there are quite a few at the moment.

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There are lots of mainliners found on european streets in both 1/25, and 1/24. If accepting some that are slightly out of scale, as some of the Doyusha kits, there are even more.

Here are I link to a modelbox library. It's under work, so there are plenty missing, but You might find some that suprices You:
http://public.fotki.com/bugace/plastic- ... kit-boxes/

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