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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2017 23:35 pm 
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Hi all
The Israeli version, is it early period F-4 with un-slatted (hard) wings or later period F-4 with slatted (soft) wings?

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I have the 1971 McDonnell F-4B/C/E/J Phantom 1.72, New decals on the market allow for the Israeli version to be replicated. Trying to understand this. Phantom novice really.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2017 23:51 pm 
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Try this, go down the page;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell ... _operators

Just gotta ask the right questions :nod:

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2017 19:21 pm 
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If you're asking which wings the Airfix kit had, they were actually only suitable for the F-4B and F-4N, as they didn't have the bulges over the wheel wells of all later variants. There were no slats.


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2017 22:41 pm 
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Thanks Richard, for clarifying whether there are slats on the wings of the Airfix 1971 kit.
Thanks FAAMAN for the helpful link.

Now I have to find out if the IAF flew early F-4Bs which will support Airfix's option of IAF decals.


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No the IAF did not have any 'short nosed' F-4C variant, the 'C' is the USAF version of the USN 'B', only the USN had F-4B Phantoms. The Airfix kit needs to be modified to correctly represent a gun nosed IAF 'E', most obviously you need the gun nose from the kit, the bulges on the wing due to a wider main wheel used by the 'D', 'J', 'E', 'F', 'G' and 'S' are easily scratched, there are a lot more differences it just depends how far you want to go.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jan 2017 07:16 am 
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Ahh, ignorance is bliss! Built mine as an F-4J not knowing about the wing bulges. Still looks good I think.

http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/models/phantom/

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That's very nice and clean Steve :thumb: Is it posted in the appropriate gallery?
That's the other glaring prob with the Airfix F-4, no side windows in the canopy divide between the for and aft cockpits :shrug: :nod:

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I doubt that any new decals on the market will be for the 45 year old Airfix kit :Whistling:

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If you want a video rather than book reference for the Kurnass, look at the "MiGs" in the film "Iron Eagle 2" (and the "USAF" is played by IAF F-16 Netzs or Baraks).

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