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 Post subject: Metalcote Paints
PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2008 18:25 pm 
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Has anyone used the metalcote paints? Are they any good? Do they work well for a natural metal finish?


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I'd like to know a bit more about metallic finishes too.....I have plans for a Hobbyboss MiG-3!   :D

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My pretty limited experience is;
Surface preparation is everything - smooth as a babies botty or it will look awful.
Airbrushing is a heck of a lot better, eliminates brush strokes. If you do brush, one pass only each coat otherwise the rapidly drying paint will preserve the brush marks.
It's very difficult to overcoat with conventional enamels - put the enamel down first, mask and spray the metalcote.
The surface can be polished to good effect. It will also show fingerprints very easily. It will come off. Best to finish with Klear or Gloss cote to seal it in.
As ever, just my experience, others will vary.

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Are they still available?
I haven't seen them in years! I thought they were pretty good back then, especially the steel, I used that on the back of a Phantom, turned out nice!


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Always been available as far as I know, certainly in the 2008 catalogue according to the list here.

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Hmm..so why haven't I seen them for so long?
Must be getting senile! :shock:


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Sgt.Squarehead wrote:
I'd like to know a bit more about metallic finishes too.....I have plans for a Hobbyboss MiG-3!   :D

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Wasn't the MiG 3 built of wood?

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I always use Metalcoat Polished Aluminium for a bare metal finish using a paintbrush.

The method that works for me is;

Primer -1 coat
Metalcoat Polished Aluminium -1 coat
Klear -2 coats
Metalcoat Polished Aluminium -1 coat
Klear - 2 coats
Add any decals and touch up any Aluminium
Klear - 3 coats

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Beautiful finishes there Brian. What primer do you use? I was wondering about applying polished aluminium metalcote over a base of gloss black 21 (rather than Hu1 grey primer). Something similar to how Alclad is done, I was wondering if it might give a smoother, deeper finish?

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Hi Rich,

I just use bog standard Halfords Grey primer out of a can. Although I did try H1 Primer for the Mustang -which took forever and a day to dry!

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johnwalker wrote:
Wasn't the MiG 3 built of wood?

John


Not  the cowling:

http://hsfeatures.com/features04/mig3tb_1.htm

How beautiful is that!   8-)  

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I love the Humbrol metalcotes. I find them to be very easy to use. I use H1 primer, followed by a couple coats of Klear, followed by a single coat of metalcote sprayed direct from the can. Here is my Airfix 1/72 Hawker P.1127 that I recently completed.

<a href="http://sworld.com.au/steven/models/p1127/index.html"><img src="http://sworld.com.au/steven/models/p1127/p1127_s.jpg">

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IIRC I used three Metalcote paints on this  :arrow:
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Applied with a brush (over Hu 56) and buffed with a Q-tip  :wink:

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Sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but whilst we're talking about metal cotes; can you mask them with Tamiya tape or will this lift the paint?

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It would certainly lift a good amount off, either overcoat with Klear or Gloss coat, or (as it is a pain to apply enamel over a metal cote anyway) apply the other colour first and mask that.

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299_paul wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but whilst we're talking about metal cotes; can you mask them with Tamiya tape or will this lift the paint?


Buff the metalcoat before applying the Klear to release the full effect.  Try the post-it note idea instead of tape after buffing and you may not have to Klear coat until after colour. I personally prefer a coat of Klear for protection before colour.

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 Post subject: Humbrol metal cote
PostPosted: Thu 11 Jun 2015 14:21 pm 
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I've seen on the YouTube channel the use of both metal cotes and I'm going to try the aluminium one. Humbrol demonstrated on a p-51 mustang , but what other alternatives could I try it on ? Other 72 scale bare metal finished aircraft.


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 Post subject: Re: Humbrol metal cote
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Most WW2 USAAF bombers and fighters post summer 1944 approx.
1950 - 1960 era USAF aeroplanes.
The metal sections on RAF between-wars biplanes.
Russian jets 1947 onwards.

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 Post subject: Re: Humbrol metal cote
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 Post subject: Metalcote Dilemma
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I'd like to ask you guys something. Are you using Humbrol 27001 & 27002 ? Aren't they meant to be polished after spraying ? :!:

They both seem like 11,56 and 191, grainy metallic paint -only difference is 01 is a little lighter than 02. They're all mixed up in the tin, no lumps etc. on the bottom. I've sprayed without problem but they are not like 27003 and 27004, polishing doesn't make any difference. Seems quite grainy just like 11,56 and 191. Is it the color itself, or do i have a problematic tin ? :neutral:

Another question is, can i mix any Metalcote color with other regular Humbrol enamels to get different "metallic" tone ?

It looks exactly like this;
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