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 Post subject: Paint no guide
PostPosted: Sun 04 Mar 2007 14:09 pm 
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found this might help some of you (help me loads)

http://ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/st ... _gunze.htm

Edit another great site for this:

http://www.themodelcatalogue.com/paint_conversion.asp

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Ah yes, the IPMS Stockholm colour charts are a constant source of aid. I have a number of them printed off and sitting next to my paint box.

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Just found this over on the ARC site , looks very good  :D

http://www.paint4models.com

Check it out.

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Looks a most useful resource, thanks

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Dec 2008 17:29 pm 
Ayup...

I remember years ago that you could get 'Colour Wheels', that not only could tell you about complimentary colours, but could also tell you the Revell number, (if any), humbrol equivalent, whether availiable in Acrylic or enamel, etc... and so on. unfortunately wherever it came from, they wanted a fiver for them, and that was too rich for my bag at the time...  I could do with one for reference now, though.


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I'm with you there Feanor.... having a little bit of trouble with some cross referencing and I wonder if anyone could advise  :?:

There's a couple of colours I've been looking for in Humbrol acryclic that are out of stock at the moment, so I tried to cross reference with either Tamiya or Vallejo Model Colour and I get conflicting numbers from the different model shop charts and manufacturer websites...

For instance, if you check the Humbrol website for a specific Tamiya colour code it gives you the Humbrol equivalent, but if you check the Vallejo cross reference chart it gives a different cross reference between Humbrol and Tamiya and thus a different recommendation for Vallejo  :shrug:

Is it normal to find that different charts recommend different paint codes between Humbrol / Tamiya / Revell and Vallejo?

If there are differences of opinion between each manufacturer is there a primary chart we can trust?


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec 2008 16:17 pm 
Ayup Spike...

Yes, it's a swine that manafacturers can't seem to agree on 'common' information.

Most modellers' 'Bible' is at IPMS Stockholm for the ultimate paint reference...

Sorry if it doesn't help much though.


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Appreciate that mate, thank you.

I think even on that guide we get a single Humbrol reference and 2 or 3 different codes for other manufacturers depending on where you look.

I'll persevere and see where I get to... I guess it will lead to buying a broader range of colours than I really need  :?


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this might not apply in this case Spike, but it could be that the difference is in the finish and an appropriate varnish is required.


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Hi Walrus, yeah thanks for that, it did cross my mind but there's no reference on some of the differing charts I've checked against so it's just not possible to tell.

It looks like there are some actual differences of opinion between manufacturers, and hey! if I end up painting a bright orange spirfire I'm sure someone will point me in the right direction  :juggle:  :wink:



Just added this as an example;

Humbrol No. 65

According to http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com = Tamiya XF14

Yet XF14 on Humbrol site = Humbrol 147

And according to http://www.modelairplaneinternational.com on the Tamiya X-ref chart there is no Humbrol equivalent...

And around we go  :drunk:


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Maybe if something like the Pantone system was used as the base reference we'd see which colours really match and which are approximately the same  :idea:

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You know what Ratch I think that's a really great idea!

I wonder if the manufacturers could provide us with the pantone references, I would imagine they have them for future paint production?

They probably guard that information with a big lock and a single key though  :think:


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I won't make any excuses, except to say I must be a geek  :geek:  but I've decided to rationalise the many paint/colour guides into one huge Excel Spreadsheet  :nailbite:
Already I'm discovering two or more FS numbers quoted against Humbrol colours  :?  let alone other brands of paint, and then there are some that seem plainly wrong (as a match)  :evil:
When I've done the basic groundwork I shall return with options for your verdict  :twisted:  Maybe we can construct The Ultimate Paint Guide between us  :P

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Mar 2009 20:44 pm 
Ayup Ratch..

TBH I use the 'Official' Humbrol guide. (new one) and my 'old' one which has every one, even the discontinued ones in numerical order. As i need various colours, obviously i go to Stockholm to have a look and check there, but i haven't made a note, unfortunately. i would rather use Imperial (English) designations than American... no offence to our good fellows there. nut a database IS a good Idea. do we swop paint numbers?


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I'm looking to tie up Humbrol, Humbrol Authentics, Federal Standard, RLM, RAL, BS, Vallejo Model Air, Vallejo Model Colour, Testors, Tamiya, Revell, Gunze, Master Acryl, Life Colour, Andrea, Film Colour, Rackham and Airfix  :shock:

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It is a very good idea Ratch as I sometimes find it difficult even with my Humbrol Chart and Stockholm

But you must be a sucker for punishment  :lol:

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Go for it Ratch !!!  :Clapping:

Bet you have square eyes when you finish ( 2010 !!  :wink: )

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Ratch, you're an absolute star. Put m'name down for one youth!

Will you be scanning a shade card sample in to it too? :sofa:

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I'm very impressed by this dedication, I salute you.


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