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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010 21:45 pm 
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Hi all

Doing my first tank for ages, painted the tracks as per the instructions using an enamel paint, and 4 days later they're still tacky!!!!

What did I do wrong and any tips for getting them to dry properly?


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yeah, I've had that problem before, I believe it is the reaction between the enamel and the vinyl track.

I have now taken to priming all the parts on the spru before assembly with Halfords matt black spray paint, since which I haven't had the problem

the tracks should dry eventually, or you could try stripping the paint back and trying again with primer first

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Sep 2010 10:06 am 
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Thanks Shorty, I'll give that a try


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012 23:41 pm 
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How do you paint model tank rubber tracks, what paints and do prime them?


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Don't think this should be in 'aircraft' topic, but it depends what kind of tracks you are talking about. I am guessing the nasty 'elasticy' ones in the Airfix 1/72 kits like the Tiger/Panther?
Due to the material they are made of I would suggest primer would be a good idea, then paint their base colour (dark grey/black?) and dry-brush the treads.

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Yes mine
is a panther tank and a WW1 male tank.


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If you have got the poor quality rubber tracks which I have experienced on numerous kits - like Churchill, Sherman, etc . . .  I wash them when I wash the kit.  When their turn in the build process arrives, I trim off as much of the rubbishy excess rubber that is on the edges and try to get them presentable.

Then tend to give them a coat of paint.....  

Then stitch them together into the band - I sew with needle and cotton and then slip that over and into place.     During the fitting them on stage - some if not most of the paint normally starts cracking and crazing and falling off :lol:

Having got them fitted - I then paint them again in-situ in the areas that really need it.  

If the rubber is absolutely atrocious which it was on some I have made, when the tank is finished - I then clog up the tracks, the join and around the road wheels etc with "clog" to help disguise and make the tank look more like it has just come through a muddy field.  

For "clog"  I dry out the contents of a tea-bag or two and apply a liberal coat of PVA glue and then get the tea-bag contents to stick on.  Alternatively for clog you can use railway type scatter - or the expensive weathering pigments.


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Should have added earlier - if you want to be spoilt over tank tracks -build the new moulded Cromwell.  They are great tracks.  Not like you  seen so far.  Have a look if not done so at the current group build or the review build done back in Sept/Oct 2011 for it.


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The old rubber-band Airfix tracks took paint fairly well without any prep and have lasted for decades without disintegrating (unlike Nitto and late Matchbox ones...). The new ones seem to repell paint. Has anyone found a pre-treatment that works well?

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013 22:25 pm 
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Through the years I have learned that the tracks on most older Airfix models are quite difficult to work with.
To begin with, they are made of polyethylene, which is a kind of plastic that no glue in the world seems to work satisfactorily on (I have researched this thoroughly with friends who are chemists and experts in plastic).
When it comes to assembly of the tracks I usually use staples that I pinch together tightly.
I have almost completely stopped painting tracks before I install them on the tank, but instead I usually fit them before I basecoat the model.
After this I normally use to paint the tracks with diluted white glue before I start the actual painting. This provides a good basis for the color and usually prevent the paint from flaking off during handling.
Finally, I have the bad habit of applying "dirt and mud" on my models and for this I use a mixture of coffee grounds, sand, white glue, static grass and color pigment. The glue in the mixture also helps to prevent paint release.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013 06:27 am 
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I made the mistake of painting an Airfix Stug tank tracks the reco Gunmetal over Xmas & I reckon they are still a bit sticky now!

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013 02:24 am 
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Build the model completely, including the tracks (that way you are supergluing the tracks directly to the plastic & not just supergluing one thin layer of paint to another).....Undercoat the model.....Paint the model. :idea:

I spray (or brushpaint) the whole running gear and lower hull sides in a muddy brown before moving onto the vehicle painting.....This allows you to preestablish your weathering and disguises the areas that are tricky to paint neatly:

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The tracks on this StuG are L&L and I'm airbrushing, but the technique is exactly the same for vinyl-bands, brushpainting/rattle-cans etc. :idea:

On a tank mud and grime are your friend. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013 09:18 am 
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This is what I tried
viewtopic.php?f=331&t=30092&start=220#p533581
Seemed to work quite well - at least to my eyes.
Note - 3 months on and I cannot see any evidence of the paint peeling off -probably all fall off now I've said that :)

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013 12:58 pm 
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Looks like it worked well too.....But the contact patches for those tracks are enormous. :neutral:

Try getting prepainted vinyl tracks to stick to something a little less substantial, like say a 1/72 Carro Armato M.11/40 or a T-26:

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Let me know how it works out for you. :wink:

Not trying to be facetious, over the years I reckon I've attempted almost every possible combination of kit, paint, glue, heat, staples, sewing etc. etc. & the one thing that consistently works best for me is to build the whole kit before painting the tracks. I use liquid-poly for L&L and CA & Accellerator for vinyl bands. :idea:

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Hi all,
I thought I would share how I paint my tank tracks, I know there are many different ways but this is how I do mine:

Firstly we start with the paints and wash:
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The MIG AMMO box contains 6 paints designed for tires and tracks:
Satin Black
Rubber & Tires
Rust Tracks
Dark Tracks
Dust
Earth

The wash is MIG-1004 Light Rust and the Tamiya paint is XF-56 Metallic Grey.

I am going to use some spare Bronco 1/35 Panther tracks:
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Here they are after being assembled, they just clip together, but I ran some Tamiya Extra Thin cement in the hinges to stop any movement:
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Then both sides were airbrushed with Rust Tracks colour from the MIG AMMO set:
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Once the paint has dried, give both sides of the tracks a wash using the Light Rust, if needs be apply more that one application:
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That's all for now, more soon :thumb:

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Nov 2015 17:45 pm 
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Cheers Mike, but they are not finished yet. Maybe tonight...if the cat ever gets off my lap :cat:

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Nov 2015 16:48 pm 
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Will watch this with interest. I've not done many AFV's and have a Panther that I keep opening and closing the box because I'm not confident with tracks.. Hope your cat moves soon (mine usually spreads himself out on the work bench!). Must be nearly dinner time?


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Cheers Daz :thumb: the cat moved after a while...which was great as he weighs 8kg :cat: I was going to finish this last night but I had to square away a drink driving/safe driving presentation for work...a bit last minute.com but that's how we roll :!:

Right ho on with the tracks:

Once the light rust wash has dried you will be left with some thing like this:
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Then give all the raised areas a dry brushing with the Dark Track colour from the paint set:
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Once the previous step has dried, dry brush some XF-56 on to the areas that will contact the road surface and the teeth that wear between the road wheels:
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And you should be left with some thing like this:
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Thanks for looking in, I hope this is of some help to someone :Tank:

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spitfire1677 wrote:
I hope this is of some help to someone

Well this is a great tutorial! I'll definitely try it out when I start my Cromwell - thank you! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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