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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011 11:06 am 
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well as the title suggests i would like to know the paint schemes of RAF vehicles which blue/grey should i use and what camoflage was painted on them

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AFAIK Early WW2 ALL vehicles were painted a plain dark earth with white applied to front bumpers and edges of front wings only.

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What paint should I use for RAF Blue Grey

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Usual recommendation is Humbrol 96, but I find it a little too grey and not enough blue.

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RAF vehicles were officially RAF Blue Grey BS.33 from 1937.  Humbrol 96 is uniform colour NOT vehicle colour.  Mix 5 x H32 + 2 x H14 + 2 x H33, satin varnish when dry.  In 1939-40 some vehcles in France and South of England were paintedwith browns and greens paint intended for buildings camouflage.  AMO 618/41 August fell into line with army colours.  Khaki Green 3 basic with Dark Tarmac 4 stripes disrupter.  Khaki Green can only be mixed with Revell paints.  
AMO 1397/42 December change of scheme, basic colour now SCC 2 brown with SCC1A disrupter in army 'Mickey Mouse' design.  October 1943 changed disrupter to SCC 14 black same design.  September 1944 change to overall SCC 15 Olive Drab, this is NOT the same shade as the U.S. colour. Mix 8 x H159 +1 pt H33.  AMO 306/46 changed back to Gloss RAF Blue Grey but now with Black mudguards, valence wheels and chassis.


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Very comprehensive. Thankyou Mikestarmer, I too can use this great clear info.
You say the AMO 618/41 August Khaki Green can only be mixed with Revell paints, any idea of which ones and the mix ratio?

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Khaki Green 3 mix, hold your breath.  12 pts Revell 361 + 7 pts Revell 84 + 5 pts Revell 360.  If there was something easier I would tell you, thus far I have found none.  I usually make up a tin at a time as this is a colour that I use a lot of and it is easier to tweak the mix when testing against my master sample.
You can get away with 5pts Humbrol 155 + 3 pts Revell 46 asscale colour on small models.
Dark Tarmac 4 is Revell 78 as is.  This is provisional based on colour photographs and film until I get a positive match from a Canadian contact who found a sample in their archives.


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Many thanks,  :thumb:  :cheers:
Now to repaint some of my earlier completed models.

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Just found an easier mix using Humbrol paints.  5 pts 159 khaki drab + 4 pts 10 gloss brown + 4 pts 24 yellow.  Quite suitable on 1/72-1/76 or smaller models.


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Great, thanks again,  :thumb:

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I've seen the pre-war colours as depicted by Airfix and while striking don't look very realistic. Espcially the RAF Fire Truck in the rescue set.

There's also the Brown, Dark Brown camo which looks more realistic.

I've also seen RAF blue as well as Green for Queen Marys.

At the moment I'm making 2 RAF Recovery sets so I'm not sure what colour I should paint for an operational 43-44 style airfield?
Can I model different colours or would an airfield standardise on one scheme and does the colour differ from vehicle to vehicle.

There's also very scant info for the interior. I've seen ww2 ambulances and they have a grey / cream style interior? All the trucks I've seen seem to be pre or post war and all images are B+W.

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For your Queen Marys i would go for a brown base colour (HU 29) and probably with HU9 for the top cover camouflage, as seen on the Commer truck in the background.
Alternately you could go for the earlier scheme of brown base with HU 98 as seen on the Crossley and Matador.

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There would have been a cross over period from the old to the new scheme, vehicles only being re-painted when in for a major service or repair  and the operational needs aloud such ..

RAF Blue-grey was on vehicles at the ourbreak of war and not around come late 1943-early '44.

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I think I'll try `(HU 29) and probably with HU9 ` as I like those colours.
Would a Queen Mary be painted like that. The trailer might be a challenge.


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I believe all this was covered very comprehensively in another thread, with a similar title.
I forget who, but someone gave all the proper colours and how to mix paints to get them right.

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Hi,

thanks for that.
I'll assume the QM trailer was painted in a similar Mickey Mouse fashion.

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I outlined the correct chronology for schemes earlier in this thread.  Humbrol 9 and 29 are far too light to even represent SCC2 and SCC1A colours.  The following mixes have been made against original samples.  H= Humbrol;  R = Revell
SCC2 (brown) = 6 x R84 + 5 x R86  This was the basic vehicle colour.
SCC1A (dark brown) = 8 x R84 + 2 x H33 + 1 x H133.  This is the disruptive colour over SCC2.

Suitable alternative mixes not as accurate are:
SCC2 = 5 x H98 + 4 x H29.
SCC1A = 4 X H10 + 1 X H33.  This will need matt coating when dry.  

SCC14 (black) = R9 or 4 x H33 + 1 x H67.
SCC15 Olive Drab = 5 X H150 + 5 X H159 + 2 X H33;  Alternatives are; 8 x H159 + 1 x H33 or 3 x R42 + 1 x R361.  Despite the name this colour is NOT the same colour as US army O/D.

The trailer of the Queen Mary has no great areas that would reflect light so a basic colour would be all that was necessary.

When painting the so called 'Mickey Mouse' scheme you MUST paint all surfaces that can be seen from directly above your model with the darker colour.  This includes the body and cab roofs, bonnet tops, front mudguards and any upward facing walkways and rear mudguards.  No exceptions, as painting instructions were subject to K.R.s as in any other order issued by authority.  Should anyone wish to learn more and see copies of these instructions I publish a book on the subject which also has matched paint samples of all these colours.  Contact by e-mail.


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Thanks for that detail Mike.

I shall have to paint over the very top of the Commer ....

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Can anyone confirm if the wooden sections of the Queen Mary Semi Trailer were unpainted wood or painted?


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