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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016 06:21 am 
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One of my old family friends found a photo of her grandfather wearing a kilt. He enlisted in 1914 at age 15 to get out of working in a coal mine (where he'd been since the age of 12).

She thought that he was in the Black Watch, which would gel with the kilt, and maybe he was, but the document she showed me indicated that he held the rank of Gunner in the 34 Liege Battery RGA - which sounds like Royal Garrison Artillery to me.

His name was Harry / Henry Russell, born 1/1/1899, Service number 187167.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016 06:48 am 
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First; did he survive the war?

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016 07:12 am 
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Yes, and that should probably read "siege", not liege.

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Then I can be of no help

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Location: R-Lo innit! (Or Harlow to those that speak English)
You or your friend could apply to the national archives for information. It also gives tips of where other information could be found.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help ... fter-1913/

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016 13:39 pm 
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Thanks, Fred and Roo.

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Do you know if he was UK British or from Canada, Australia, NZ or South Africa?
Have you seen the photo?
Was he wearing stockings, spats or puttees
Was the kilt pleated all the way round, including the front?

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He was from Scotland. I have seen the photo. I'll share it later. Thanks again. Apparently he signed up in 1914, was trained at Edinburgh castle, and his duty, by the end of the war, at least, was to shoot at aeroplanes with a machine gun.

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Some sort of leave pass, I imagine:
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Pension documentation:
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This un?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... nry+187167.
If it is him, then This is his medical Card..but a distorted Version, to get the proper Version you have to pay
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... ViewerLink

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It looks like he had the photo taken in his best 'walking out uniform'
I don't think its the BW tartan, but the Government Tartan

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According to his grandson, he was in the Black Watch, which would make sense for Government Tartan. I don't know how you get to be in RGA from there. Cream job, though. No trenches!
And thanks, Fred!!

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[quote="Brews"]Some sort of leave pass, I imagine:
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It´s a "other ranks" Z11 Protection Certificate (a de-mob form)

http://www.1914-1918.net/demobilisation.htm

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Ah, thanks for that.

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is this him though ?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... nry+187167.
medical Card..
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... ViewerLink

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and this...a medal Award certificate
http://search.ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.d ... &ml_rpos=1
As far as I can tell, to view it properly you have to Register (Anmeldung)

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That protection certificate was issued when a soldier was discharged from service to prove to the military police he had not deserted. I have my grandfathers. Good luck with your search 60% of the WW1 records were lost in a second world war bombing raid but if your relative had died in action he will be several other lists. If he was wounded he will be on the casualty lists and field hospital lists.

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