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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 05:01 am 
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Today I purchased kit an Airfix Spitfire Ia - the series 1 kit, A01071A. Looking at the contents of the box, I thought the decal sheet was a little basic. Looking at the back of the box, I noticed that the artwork talked about many, many decals (stencils) that were not on the sheet in my kit.

I then came here and took a look at the kit reviews etc. to see if this had been noticed (how could it not have been?).

So take a look at the decal sheet in the kit when it was issued in 2010 ...

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=291&t=20725&hilit=A01071A

... and now look at the sheet in my kit ....

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Has Airfix been struck by a paper-and-ink shortage? What the heck is going on here?

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 06:09 am 
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uhhh, I'm wordless.
I know Hornby has to get back into profits again, but this way ?

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 07:48 am 
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I am guessing that the powers that be at Airfix looked at the decal sheet and thought that while it is nice to have a full set of decals to detail the spitfire, at 1/72 the are really too small for anyone but the most obsessive detailer to put on.
To be honest, out of all the missing decals, the only ones I would put on that kit are the red gun covers.
Almost everything else is just too fiddly.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 07:56 am 
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That's rather disappointing.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 08:14 am 
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Bruce, why don't you contact Airfix and ask them :idea:

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Looks like someone has made a mistake in the packing department.
That "reduced fat" decal sheet is exactly the same as that contained inside the Ltd Edition Daily Mail (Newspaper) promo release of the Spitfire Mk.1 issued in 2013 (I think) kit number A68101. That had the standard issue reference printed on the sheet (A01071A). Paint plan on the reverse of the box has decal placement instructions only for the supplied decals.

It may be that a batch of these reduced sheets had been mistakenly sent for packing in standard kits as they share the same kit number....

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Exact same problem on the exact same kit buddy! I bought a set of eagle decals from hannants but I'm going to get on the blower to airfix tomorrow since they haven't replied to any e,ails I have sent regarding an issue with a red arrows kit I contacted them about a while back.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:31 pm 
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BACTSR2 wrote:
Looks like someone has made a mistake in the packing department.
That "reduced fat" decal sheet is exactly the same as that contained inside the Ltd Edition Daily Mail (Newspaper) promo release of the Spitfire Mk.1 issued in 2013 (I think) kit number A68101. That had the standard issue reference printed on the sheet (A01071A). Paint plan on the reverse of the box has decal placement instructions only for the supplied decals.

It may be that a batch of these reduced sheets had been mistakenly sent for packing in standard kits as they share the same kit number....

I certainly agree it looks like the "Daily Mail" decal sheet.


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:06 pm 
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Ratch wrote:
Bruce, why don't you contact Airfix and ask them :idea:


Oh, I have. However, my track record for responses from Airfix (about any issue) has been approximately zero for the last 10 months or so.

They acknowledge the note and assign it a number and then it just disappears into the void.

In any case a post here serves notice to people to check their own kits for the same issue?

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I noticed the same thing with the starter set. I also have the non-starter set which came with the full decal sheet. I had assumed the truncated sheet was included with the starter set only, and am kind of surprised to see it with the regular series one kit. Particularly, as you pointed out, since the instructions provide clear instructions for applying the stencils.


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Roo wrote:
I am guessing that the powers that be at Airfix looked at the decal sheet and thought that while it is nice to have a full set of decals to detail the spitfire, at 1/72 the are really too small for anyone but the most obsessive detailer to put on.


Uh, no. If nothing else, a deliberate drastic change to the sheet like that would require an equally drastic change to the box artwork so that it no longer refers to the missing decals -- otherwise they run the risk of falling afoul of misleading advertising.

In any case, "the powers that be" at Airfix are very much in favour of stencil markings on all kits except for "Starter Kits" (which are primarily marketed to inexperienced modellers) -- and that's a very good thing, IMO.

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I noticed the same thing with the starter set. I also have the non-starter set which came with the full decal sheet. I had assumed the truncated sheet was included with the starter set only, and am kind of surprised to see it with the regular series one kit. Particularly, as you pointed out, since the instructions provide clear instructions for applying the stencils.


No stencils on starter kit sets is SOP. My initial thought was that maybe I had received a starter kit decal sheet by accident, except that the sheet in my set has the wrong code for the starter set (and I thought that the kit subject in the starter set is a different aircraft -- but looking at your picture, apparently that's not the case).

Actually, your starter kit box looks different to the normal starter kit? http://www.airfix.com/aircraft/1-72-scale-military-aircraft/supermarine-spitfire-mkia-starter-set-1-72.html

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BACTSR2 wrote:
Looks like someone has made a mistake in the packing department.
That "reduced fat" decal sheet is exactly the same as that contained inside the Ltd Edition Daily Mail (Newspaper) promo release of the Spitfire Mk.1 issued in 2013 (I think) kit number A68101. That had the standard issue reference printed on the sheet (A01071A). Paint plan on the reverse of the box has decal placement instructions only for the supplied decals.

It may be that a batch of these reduced sheets had been mistakenly sent for packing in standard kits as they share the same kit number....


OK. That would make sense (as a stupid packing error).

Why make a "special release" kit and then give it the same number as a "standard release"? That's just begging for trouble.

Now I just have to hope that Airfix actually decide to respond to the ticket I logged. Was it only a year ago we were all praising them for their fantastic customer service? :cry:

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Actually, your starter kit box looks different to the normal starter kit? http://www.airfix.com/aircraft/1-72-sca ... -1-72.html


Well, colour me surprised. I had no idea there was a different starter set with markings for a different aircraft. I guess my starter set must have been a U.S. only release.


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BWP wrote:
In any case a post here serves notice to people to check their own kits for the same issue?

No problem there Bruce, someone has to point out the mistakes 8-)
I sometimes wonder whether we (the Admins & Mods) are expected to provide an 'Official Airfix' response when the poster can get it straight from the horse's mouth just like anyone can :wink:

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Well Ratch, you are an impeccable source and trusted senior staff of the forum.... :wink:

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Ratch wrote:
I sometimes wonder whether we (the Admins & Mods) are expected to provide an 'Official Airfix' response when the poster can get it straight from the horse's mouth just like anyone can :wink:

Well given that someone on the Atf answers Facebook questions on the official airfix page, as airfix themselves don't seem to bother....

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That certainty looks like the standard 'markings only' sheet found the starter sets. Embarrassing for it to have found it's way into the full fat series 1 kits. Hope you get a reply from Airfix soon

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My confidence in Airfix support has risen a little bit: they responded overnight with a "the part you requested has been mailed to you" email. So hopefully that will sort everything out OK.

(They also responded to a different ticket that I raised a few weeks back; that's not quite so happy a story, but at least they did eventually respond ... perhaps things are on the mend in the customer service department.)

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... and the new (correct) decal sheet arrived in today's post. All is good with the world.

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