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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 16:44 pm    Post subject: Starter Kit GB? Reply with quote

How about this for a possible GB? Entrants work with an Airfix starter kit, and can only use what is provided in the box to build the kit. Only basic modelling tools to be allowed (say, scissors, glue, knife etc), with no filler, no masking tape, no fancy frills!

How about it?
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 18:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the concept  

A 'Back to Basics Build'  
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 19:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good idea, Owen.  

If I find a starter kit here in Denmark, I think I would join.

The very few model shops we have don’t normally stock starter kits.
And our largest chain of toyshops with almost monopoly status doesn’t have model kits  AT ALL !!    

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 20:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Kit GB? Reply with quote

Owen wrote:
How about this for a possible GB? Entrants work with an Airfix starter kit, and can only use what is provided in the box to build the kit. Only basic modelling tools to be allowed (say, scissors, glue, knife etc), with no filler, no masking tape, no fancy frills!

How about it?


When you say starter kits, are you referring to a gift set with the brush, glue and paints included, or just a basic series 1/2 kit?

Might be an idea for a challenge,  - model to be built as simply as possible using basic techniques with basic tools.
1. Knife.
2. Tube glue.
3. One file, or a piece of sanding paper.
4. Construction OOB, no alterations, except to finesse the fit or clean up seams/joins using the above tools.
5. Only Humbrol paints used in instructions, as directed in the instructions - applied by brush.
6. Gloss cote - brush applied.
7. Kit decals.
8. Matt cote - brush applied.

No filler, no Klear, no cyano, no pva, no primer, no airbrushing, no washes, no weathering, no alterations, no plastic card, no resin, no photo-etch etc.

Back to basics, like you were 10 years old all over again - just back from Woolies or the corner shop with your pocket money purchase!
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 20:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 21:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Kit GB? Reply with quote

Richard M wrote:
Might be an idea for a challenge,  - model to be built as simply as possible using basic techniques with basic tools.
1. Knife.
2. Tube glue.
3. One file, or a piece of sanding paper.
4. Construction OOB, no alterations, except to finesse the fit or clean up seams/joins using the above tools.
5. Only Humbrol paints used in instructions, as directed in the instructions - applied by brush.
6. Gloss cote - brush applied.
7. Kit decals.
8. Matt cote - brush applied.

No filler, no Klear, no cyano, no pva, no primer, no airbrushing, no washes, no weathering, no alterations, no plastic card, no resin, no photo-etch etc.

Back to basics, like you were 10 years old all over again - just back from Woolies or the corner shop with your pocket money purchase!

That's how I do all mine  Angel
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 21:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Kit GB? Reply with quote

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That's how I do all mine  Angel


Having recently struggled with assorted rattle cans, airbrushes, klear and several fillers, and spoiled what otherwise should have been quite decent kits, my belated NYR is to adopt the 1/72 mantra for a few of weeks and rediscover my modelling roots.

I have 1/72 Spitfire, Hurricane and 109 ready to go.

When do we start?

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 22:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Kit GB? Reply with quote

Richard M wrote:

When you say starter kits, are you referring to a gift set with the brush, glue and paints included, or just a basic series 1/2 kit?

Might be an idea for a challenge,  - model to be built as simply as possible using basic techniques with basic tools.
1. Knife.
2. Tube glue.
3. One file, or a piece of sanding paper.
4. Construction OOB, no alterations, except to finesse the fit or clean up seams/joins using the above tools.
5. Only Humbrol paints used in instructions, as directed in the instructions - applied by brush.
6. Gloss cote - brush applied.
7. Kit decals.
8. Matt cote - brush applied.

No filler, no Klear, no cyano, no pva, no primer, no airbrushing, no washes, no weathering, no alterations, no plastic card, no resin, no photo-etch etc.

Back to basics, like you were 10 years old all over again - just back from Woolies or the corner shop with your pocket money purchase!
Best
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Objection!

No clear or matt cote!  I have almost never seen cote mentioned in any instruction.
And Airfix paints will do as well.



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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009 22:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second that objection!

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 00:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We did one of these over on the old Airfix forum, I made the Gazelle, trying to remember but I think that we all built the same kit We were only allowed to use what came with the gift set and anything that you may find around the house as general day to day use or may pick up in a craft shop if you were new to the hobby and were not aware of the usual outlets for supplies.

This is what I used



And this is how it turned out





I seem to remember it being good fun so I would certainly be up for another go.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 00:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outstanding work, stuzzar, when considering the limitations

I was thinking..
If a single cote of matt white primer was permitted,
could a model painted with colour pencils be approved?

That could be fun!  

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds interesting. I'd give it a go. Presumably if it was a gift set then you could choose any subject?
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 14:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd definately be up for this one!!

Another good thing about this build would be that anyone could join in and not be intimidated because we'd all be in the same boat; no expensive airbrushes, extenisive research through our private librarys etc, just truly out of the box.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 15:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the intention to show it before it got shot up and wrecked, or in flying down in flames hung by a loop from you mum's clothes line attached to your bed room window and a tent peg up the garden ?        Angel  
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 15:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My intention was to have a very simple GB build - either we just build plain Starter Kits, with the paint and brush included in the box (So that means finishing the model with the two or three acrylic colours included in the box), and with very basic tools - a craft knife, a pair of scissors and a file. We would only be allowed to use the one brush, the one that came in the starter kit

OR

For those international ATF'ers such as Jesper who can't source Starter Kits easily, we all choose a Series 1 or 2 kit, regardless of it being a starter kit and build it OOB with the basic tools (Craft knife, a pair of scissors, file and one brush) and limit ourselves to three paint colours as listed in the instructions - for a Spitfire this would mean using H29, H30 and H90, and from these three we must mix our own shades of paint to match the colour call outs that we don't have the paints for - so the cockpit would probably be a mixture of H90 and H30 At the start of the GB, instead of the 'obligatory sprue shots', we all show the items we are using to make the build and state which paint numbers we choose

For both ideas, things such as Varnishes, Klear, Other Glues asides from TUBE poly cement, Filler and such like are banned. Scratch building of things such as display stands out of basic materials like balsa wood should be allowed, as would things that can be found across the home such as sewing thread for aerial wire.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 17:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember asking people to join a group build similar to this a couple of years ago!
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 19:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting idea. I've never used the paints supplied with kits that I've bought. I haven't used the supplied brush either. As for the glue, well, I haven't used poly cement for years.

As an experiment to see how good Airfix Starter Kits are, I'm all for it.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009 19:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used the shot-pot acrylics, ooer !! awful.
Are Airfix putting the latest acrylics in the old style shot-pots ? or are they still best thrown out ?

I have used cheap acrylics which come in 50ml bottles just like those in a picture above, and those were 10 times better brushed or sprayed than the older Humbrol acrylics. I have only tried the newer acrylics once and I found it set solid in an unopened new style tub, so my jury is still out on that one.  
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009 22:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a hoot  
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009 23:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this goes ahead, I'll do one of my S6B's (I have three) with the paint-ball acrylics  Airhead
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