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 Post subject: Vallejo Paint
PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008 18:43 pm 
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I bought a few "sqeezies" of this stuff a couple of years ago--having read GLOWING reviews and comments on it that were all positive.

I can't make it work.  I bought it specifically for brush painting (since that's what I'm doing) and since then I take a bottle, try it, then put it back after the inevitable disaster and wait for the good feeling to come back and try it again.

No longer.  I've "binned the lot" --er, I mean I dumped it (been hanging out here a while!)

This paint is just dreadful.  It leaves HUGE brush marks when un-thinned, and will not stick to the plastic when it's thinned (with water).  I've experimented with the junk for the last time.  Out it goes.

Anybody get this stuff to work as advertised??  I can't understand how it got such a good reputation.  The only success I had with it was using the silver paint as a "varnish" to make Tamiya silver more shiny.

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I was under the impression that Vallejo paint was for airbrushing  :?
Never seen any myself  :airhead:

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Hey-- it sure doesn't work for brushing.  It seems to be quite popular with people who paint figures.. I can see how it might work for that.  Maybe...

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Were you painting it straight onto plastic, without an undercoat?  :?:

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You have got to prime with this paint otherwise it just rubs off.I thin with distilled water and have no problems with it.To Airbrush again thin with distilled water to 60:40 paint and thinner but that can go either way depending on colour your spraying.

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Hello dancho.

I have a few of them myself. And I’m NOT fond of them either.
But I think the trick with undercoat/primer and airbrush will do the work.

I mainly use them for rust stains and wash because like you I get an awful finish on larger surfaces I can’t buff,
polish or do anything with since it rubs off so easily and is soft too.  :hithead:
I don’t use airbrush and rarely prime the surface so that is not an option for me.

Today I mainly use Acrylic paint from “Model Master”, AeroMaster” and “Polly scale”.
They works so good with brush it sometimes can be hard to tell it’s not airbrushed. Especially the “Poly Scale” has done me good  :thumb:
And they accept almost any surface I use them on without any problems as long the surface is clean.

I also have a large quantity of Humbrol enamel tins. But I’m moving more and more to using the mentioned Acrylics.      

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You use the same paint I do and you get the same results.  Gosh, it's good to be validated!  :D

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Since I started Airbrushing I generally use Vallejo paints, though I have started to use more Tamiya of late, or even airbrushing Humbrol enamels. Having said that, I have mostly used their 'Model Air' range which are intended specifically for airbrushing. The main problem I've found with these is that the range of colours isn't great, especially for aircraft (I think they are mainly aimed at figure and armour modellers). For the most part they seem to go on well, and the silver paints go on extremely well, though I have had all kinds of problems with their black paint.

I can see how the 'ordinary' paint might not be great for brushing with, but as they do a specific 'airbrush' range, I suppose they must have intended some brushing... One thing I did find is that it seems to thin well with Tamiya, and I can't make much sense of Vallejo's own thinner - it just seems to make the paint go further without changing the consistency at all!


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Finally, got around to buying some of this stuff today, to give it a whiz, see what its like after reading glowing reviews from modellers.

Sweet!

This is the acrylic paint I've dreamed of, I can squeeze a few drops into the paint cup, no thinning, and it goes down silky smooth - it even sounds good as it come out of the brush!

I only bought one bottle - Scrooge! - and that was some RLM 76 for my Hobbyboss FW190 that's been awaiting a paint job for the last two years.

I'm sold, and my local model shop is going to get a bumper order for this stuff.

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Well... for brush painting it's absolutely hopeless.  It should come with a warning label saying "airbrush only."

Glad you're enjoying it, though. :D

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It does, its called "Model Air" - and I was talking about its airbrushing capabilities.

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Jonathan wrote:
It does, its called "Model Air"!


I missed that  ! :oops:  , and found it almost the worst paint I ever used.  :hithead:
Airbrush or not; how do you make it stick to your model???
I found it so fragile to handling.

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I do adore model air but it is quite pricey. For brushing try vallejo model colour, its far easier to brush but not very nice to airbrush as its quite thick

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I like Vallejo Model Air paints - the range of silvers are amazing, they go down like velvet. They even brush very well. I've had more mixed results with other colours, but in general my only complaint is that the range of colours is a bit limited, especially for aircraft modellers.

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I used some Vallejo Model Colour paints on my ECW figures  :D
I'm thinking of switching over wholesale  :think:  I have some Vallejo Model Air as well, but have yet to try them  :roll:

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I have only started it using Vallejo recently and their range is fantastic. It is just a pity that  the local LMS does not have the whole range at the moment. I have ended up ordering some through LuckyModel in Hong Kong.

I have only used it for brush painting although I did mix some of their Iraqi Sand with Tamiya Buff for A T69 II kit and the result was brilliant.

As I said earlier the Vallejo rnage of colours is brilliant and perfect for armour kits and figures.

The other thing I have started using for a primer is Games Workshop Skull White after advice from my local LMS guys. It goes down a treat and at $20 for a 400ml rattle can I will certainly keep using it. They also do a black that I have been told works just as well. The cost is the same as I would have paid for a Tamiya 200ml primer rattle can.


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I often use Vallego Model Colour on my figures but you do need to thin it down (so it looks as thin as milk) and then build up the coats to it looks right.
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Hi all,
quick tip when using Vallejo paints by brush, you NEED to use a flow enhancer, they dry incredibly quickly.
Also handle with care, as jhl1908 said they do have a tendancy to lift, less if you undercoat first.

Never airbrushed with them but it has been recommended that you use a fairly large 'needle' as they can clog the nozzle.
Though this is a problem with most Acrylics.

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 Post subject: Vallejo Metallic paints
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Has anyone ever used Vallejo Model Air Aluminium (Metallic) paints for new metal finish aircraft before?

I am trying not to go down the Alclad route as they seem to very time consuming in preperation.

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Their Metallic Gun Metal is nice  8-)  (71.072) and brushes well too (on small areas)  :wink:

Not used any other of their metallics yet  :roll:

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