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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2011 22:02 pm 
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Not sure which forum this goes in, but was just wondering what kit is the rarest/hardest to get hold of? As am having great difficulty in finding the Crusader 1:32 tank.


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Stingray or the Fergusson tractor  :wink:

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SS France, SAM2 missile  :roll:

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Thats five Ratch. Which one is the rarest?


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stevebull:310471 wrote:
Crusader 1:32 tank.

Last available in 2005  :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2011 22:27 pm 
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Ratch:310480 wrote:
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Crusader 1:32 tank.

Last available in 2005  :wink:


I got one off ebay for a few quid, the version with the German and British infantry.

How about SR-N1? (actually I just checked and there's a bagged one on ebay.)

The Roman fort, English castle and Saharan forts - can't be many of those left.
(At one time or other I had all three  but in only one case did I have figures that went with them)

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I think the Fergusson Tractor was Airfix's first kit so I should imagine that is very rare.  I think the original Golden Hind is also very rare.  Ratch is right about the Sam 2 Guideline Missile.  I've seen four or five of these on ebay, but they go for quite high sums.  The thing about the Sam 2 is that the moulds were lost and so Airfix or no other company are going to produce that particular kit again.  It would have to be a re-tooling.  Thus, the Sam 2 is destined to become rarer and rarer as more of the remaining kits are built or sold on and built.  Of course, the same holds true for models produced from other moulds that have since gone AWOL!  I'm not sure how many of Airfix's moulds have disappeared over the years.

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All the kits I mentioned are in the mould missing, believe destroyed bracket  :(

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Blimey, Ratch!  What a loss!  :cry:  Although I must admit that I've never seen any of them on ebay apart from the Sam 2.

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Ratch:310496 wrote:
All the kits I mentioned are in the mould missing, believe destroyed bracket  :(


This discussion brings up an interesting (to me anyway) train of thought.

Airfix models whose moulds are lost can never be produced again.

Airfix models which had a limited run but were generally unpopular are extremely unlikely ever to be produced again.

Which gives us multiple classes of rarities. Those rare and desired for reasons beyond their rarity. Those rare due to obscurity.
And finally those rare but lacking in aesthetic desirability.

I'm guessing "Finches" is in the latter - lord knows why I had that one when I was younger. Must have been a gift. After putting together aircraft with moving elevators and turning gun turrets I can't see myself walking up to the counter with a bird kit and saying "I'll have this".

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Austin Maxi, Vauxhall Victor Estate, Ford Capri, Lotus Cortina, MG1100, Beach Buggy, Mini Minor (1/32), Bond Bug. All would expect to be over £70 typically due to their rarety, the ones mentioned by others above are usually close to or less than £70 with the Bond Bug probably the rarest kit of all, with an expected average price of around £100, closely followed by the Victor.

There are also still bargains to be had when the high payers are not looking. If bought at shows etc they may sometimes be cheaper.

There are a large number of kits which are rarish like the Hawker Hart, which although the mould was altered to the Demon, are still available frequently due to the great number released.

The Bond Bug was never given a big release so it remains very rare.

Some of the ships are rare but seem to appear in batches of two or three, and usually hold their price.

The real rarest kit will always be the one you really want at that time.
Ps. I will be selling a 1/32 Crusader shortly, if I can stay awake long enough to do it along with loads more.

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Very interesting and informative, Loll! :thumb:

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I forgot several of course, the tractor will always be expensive as they only made so many and no more will be made, very rare indeed.  Original "real" ie. square stand base, Spitfire BTK very dear because they were a fairly short production run, slightly less rare are the ones with the 'modern' tear drop base. For some strange reason the not very good MkIX JEJ is regarded as collectable but there are hundreds out there in plastic bags with paper headers.

I paid too much for an original Islander, and Airfix kindly re-released it mutter ... mutter ..... now worth about a third that I paid  :cry:  :cry: It is though a much better moulded one, with the original luxury seats and crew.

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Ermmm..
What about the Southern Cross- my first kit in the 50s?
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What about the Southern Cross- my first kit in the 50s?
Stu :wink:


Turns up every year or so, followed by another straight after for some reason, not as dear as you might expect but still around £60 plus. Ebid is the place to look for 'rare' and real rare kits.

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Loll:310503 wrote:
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The Bond Bug was never given a big release so it remains very rare.<snip>


I got one last year for about 10GBP, I think.

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Brews:310570 wrote:
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The Bond Bug was never given a big release so it remains very rare.<snip>


I got one last year for about 10GBP, I think.


Really Bruce   Well done mate !! in USA ?

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No, ex-UK. It just goes to show that things are only worth what someone else is prepared to pay. I had no idea of its "value" other than what I thought a Series 2 kit is worth. Similarly, I wouldn't pay much for a Free Enterprise 2, although I'd really like one.

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In order of rarity (my opinion)

Stingray
Fireball XL-5
SS Southern Cross
Ferguson Tractor
Spitfire BT-K
Me 109F
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James Bond Aston Martin DB5

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Hello,

Very rare, issued 1953.
Supermarine spitfire BT-K (1316).

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Isn't there a resin copy of BTK that is slightly easier to get hold of?  Nothing like having the real thing though.

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Isn't there a resin copy of BTK that is slightly easier to get hold of?  Nothing like having the real thing though.


Not much point really, it was never a good kit however you looked at it.
A copy would not be worth the effort unless it could be passed off as the real thing, and that as they say'ain't legal'. :wink:

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I know it was an awful kit but I must admit just out of shear curiosity I'd love to build it or a copy of it would sit well with my 'modern' (ie 1979 mold) BTK.

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Probably the new 1/72 Spitfire IX with the mirror image fuselage halves. Never officially released, but made at various make & takes, do any exist on the sprues still?

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