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orionv

Hms Hotspur 1944 refit

Hello the fellowship
After the Eskimo s built i want started the Hms Hotspur to ending the 2WW airfix destroyers set.But as usual i want make it in his 1944 refit .So i have a lot of informations and photos about the A-I class destroyers but i only found 2 photos about the 1944 version.I have a copie of  2 olds airfix magasines who speack about this destroyer class and i know this:in 1944 hotspur have her rear turret off and the rear deck was upgradded with more depth charges.The rear mast disapear and in place there s a antena mast .A lantern radar like those in place on the flower corvette or town class destroyer on his captain bridge.The second torpedoes tube disapear but i don t know what s come in place?Life rafts added...Is there an edgedog on the front bridge??I know there s some other modifications and the airfix magasine speack about them but if anyone have more info or photos or web links
please contact me i am very interested...
Amitiés Rémy
T16S

Hi Remy,
I don't have any information on this but just to query what you mean by 'a edgedog'? Possibly you mean a hedgehog which was a forward firing anti-submarine bomb thrower often installed on destroyers and corvettes? En Francais cest possible le herisson!
cheers  a confused Stuart
orionv

Yes that rigth an hedgehog of course,in french un herrisson....
DJBlackburn

Hotspur transportées "hérisson" en 1943 et plus de 1944, mais près de la fin de 1944, le «A» des armes à feu a été réinstallé à nouveau.
orionv

So in june 1944 for this d day dutty the first turret(A) is in place and the hedgehog is missing.That s rigth?Do you know what sort of thing is in place of the second torpedoes tube?
DJBlackburn

D-day 06/06/1944, Hotspur carried:

* Hedgehog/"hérisson" position A

* T271 "lantern" radar at rear bridge

* HF/DF aerial on aft mast.

* Racks and DC/ASW at stern position <Y>

* Only 2 x 4.7-inch guns.

*My best information for aft torpedo tubes area is a single 3-inch HA gun for anti-aircraft use.
walrus

why did they throw hedgehogs at u-boats- i know it was war and desperate measures were needed- but even so  
T16S

hmm... well hedgehogs in my experience are prickly little critters. We used to have six or seven that came into the garden at dusk. Perhaps the spines were particularly good at puncturing U boat hulls!
cheers Stuart
T16S

Oh I  just remembered after the hedgehogs didn't they start chucking squids at them? Must have been desperate!
cheers Stuart
orionv

thanks a lot mister Blackburn ,i give" rendez vous" to all of you in a new building ,the Hms Hotspur ,standing in front of the d day s beaches...
Amitiés Rémy
DJBlackburn

The British A to I classes are among my very favorite destroyers of any navy, and of any time period. I look forward to your project and if it's only half as good as your other builds, it will be well worth the wait!

If you would like a good photo of a hedgehog installation, here is one of the best I have found:

http://gallery.myff.org/gallery/378925/Hedgehog+ASW+Mortar.jpg

Enjoy!
orionv

Terrible,merci merci.
RedhillPhil

T16S wrote:
Oh I  just remembered after the hedgehogs didn't they start chucking squids at them? Must have been desperate!
cheers Stuart


Old timers used to chuck a load of green paint over the side when U-boats were detected. The U-boat captain would look through the periscope and see green so would bring the boat up a bit more, look through the periscope and still see green, so he'd bring the boat up a bit more. When it was about forty feet out of the water they'd bring it down with the Bofors. So my great uncle (H.M.S. Daffodil) told me.
T16S

Yo Ho Ho and a can of green paint!
cheers Stuart
walrus

can't help thinking this is a salty sea dog spinning a yarn he spliced- with all due respect to your Great Uncle- though it could be why the RAF kept running out of Dark Green- maybe ocean grey would have been more apropos?
wookie

T16S wrote:
Oh I  just remembered after the hedgehogs didn't they start chucking squids at them? Must have been desperate!
cheers Stuart

A bucket of instant sunshine was much more fun (and had a greater kill radius)
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