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glen3312 · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009 20:12 pm Post subject: bf 109 over surrey?????

can any one shed any light on this little mystery?
on sunday afternoon around 4.30 -5.30 a german warbird, we think a bf 109 ( but maybe a fw 190

) flew over Ripley over the farm where i work, now the plane flew very low and made 2 or 3 passes over the farm. the farmer said it flew so low it was as if the pilot knew the area and almost wanted to say "hello".
the thing is i saw the same thing happen 2 yrs on the trot while at work on the farm a couple of yrs ago, when i saw it it had another plane with it though.
i did see something that i thought looked like a hurri flying over around that time but it didnt sound like a merlin engine and the farmer did say it had "german crosses" on the underside???? any ideas anyone

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Ratch · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009 21:10 pm Post subject:

They've just restored a 190 to flying condition at Duxford

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Jamesy · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009 21:18 pm Post subject:

Ratch is right, that coulod be what it was. However, there's also a Bf 108 (close relative of the 109) flying in the UK, which has an inline engine and a large glazed canopy.

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glen3312 · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009 21:30 pm Post subject:

thanks guys, its just that this is at least the third time this plane has done this and would really love to know if there is a reason for it, does it have a connection with the area and in particular the farm?? might have to start looking locally for some answers

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Loll · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009 21:31 pm Post subject:

Maybe one of these ?
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feanor · Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009 06:43 am Post subject:

Ayup Glen...

It's not that GHOST Geschwader is it? come to Harrass the Locals from time to time is it ?
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glen3312 · Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009 18:29 pm Post subject:

i think what i might need is a website that tells you what planes (warbirds) that have been flying on any particular time, i was maybe thinking about writing to Flypast magazine or something similar but you cant guarantee your letter will be published, any ideas????

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Arpie · Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009 21:11 pm Post subject:

Hey all

If it sounded like a Spit or Hurri then it was this http://www.arc-duxford.co.uk/buchon.htm . It seems to be the most prominent 109 flying in the UK visiting most of the major airshows.

Didn't know they had gotten a 190 up and flying, thats great news

. Is it a restoration or a replica?
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hewman100 · Posted: Fri 02 Oct 2009 09:27 am Post subject:

There is a Bf108 or two about in '109' guise. One was at Shoreham airshow recently
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Loll · Posted: Fri 02 Oct 2009 10:03 am Post subject:

What happened to the Buchon that Mark Hanna died in. Was it a right-off ? Reasonably repairable ? Burn out ?

A FW 190 was being built from drawings in USA, that should be flying by now. I believe the intention was to build a few of them.
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roger.wood3 · Posted: Fri 02 Oct 2009 21:04 pm Post subject:

I do not believe that the FW190 at Duxford has flown in this country although work has been carried out at ARCO and she has taxied. Various theories abound and I won't speculate as to why she has not flown.
At this years Flying Legends we had a visit from a French registered FW190 which looked and sounded terrific. Both are new build reproductions from Germany.
As has been said above, likely candidates are the Buchon or 108.
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Digs · Posted: Tue 20 Oct 2009 06:45 am Post subject:

Great photos - thanks. It's also nice to see that when I was stood on my garden wall a few miles north of Duxford with my other half asking 'what's that?' my reply of 'it looks like an Fw190' was correct!

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KIWI · Posted: Sun 01 Nov 2009 19:47 pm Post subject:

I think that is the French one not the one that has been resident at Duxford for a while . I believe both are new builds as opposed to restorations . I believe the Duxford resident has yet to be approved by the CAA . As you are not sure if the aircraft you saw was a FW190 or a Bf109 , and you think it sounded like a Merlin engine , a Buchon would be a good candidate , I think there is at least one airworthy in the UK currently and it is camo with a red nose .