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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jul 2008 13:14 pm    Post subject: Airfix Medium Bombers GB - Dan's Dornier 217 Mistel Reply with quote

Progress of Dan's build will be recorded here.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2008 15:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found it and dug it out. Popped it open to have a quick look-see last night and took a few shots in anticipation.



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The kit of the 217 seems OK-ish, though there's a stack of ejector pin marks on it, with one on the aileron looking about 1.5mm high - almost Mach2 proportions! The Me328 is the glider version used for testing and is contained in a separate plastic baggie. Neither aircraft seems to have much cockpit detail but if anyone were to try to fly the 328, they'd have to have their legs cut off by the looks of it! Definitely the PM version as I have it separately in the stash someplace.

Anyway, sprues. Dornier first:


Baggied Me328 next:


Decals look alright but I'm going to have to dig out some Swastikas for it.


Just itching to get started but trying to restrain myself........

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of progress...

I've painted the interiors of the Me328:


and the Do 217:


All along with such things as props, spinners and so on.

After a wee while drying, I couldn't resist putting the (basic) cockpits togther, that now need a bit of tidying up. The Dornier's seats are a bit of a weird design with a t-section underneath them that took a bit of sanding to get to sit flush. See what I mean about needing a legless pilot to fly the Me328, though?


Tidying up to do next before a bit of fitting out.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep 2008 14:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great looking Mistel combination and by Airfix too.....I didn't even know that this kit existed, but I think that I really am going to have to get one.    

I look forward to watching your build progress!  

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep 2008 14:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't this kit getting re released?

I think its got a fascinating history as well !
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep 2008 15:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heggy wrote:
Isn't this kit getting re released?


Dunno! Good for Airfix if it does - this is an interesting subject, as the Sarge rightly points out.

It's a build I've been looking forward to for a bit.

Aaah, innit sweet?


And, just for sport, here it is with the nose of the Antonov we're building:


The fit of the halves is actually quite good, surprisingly. A bit of sanding will be needed but not a lot. The plastic's a bit soft and pitted, though. Not the best.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep 2008 15:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about this ...
http://www.airfix.com/airfix-prod...f-ta154fw190a6-mistel-172-a05040/
But there still both interesting
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I'm enjoying this or anything, you understand, but:

Cockus-pittus insertedus...

along with the turret. I don't need to paint any more of the turret as only the glass section protrudes. Interestingly, the glass section doesn't appear to have any framing to paint. Not sure if that's correct, but hey, I'm happy with that. The wee chaps heads need a touch of sanding down and a spot of paint on their hflying-helmets but all in all, not too shabby.

I also sanded the join on the Me328 just to get a bit of a better finish. That didn't take very long! And I've also glued the wing halves together along with the ailerons (they would be moving ailerons but I've glued them in place, too). Fit is pretty good with only a little adjustment necessary to get the ailerons to sit correctly. I had to sand down the ejector pin marks from one end of the ailerons and I still have to fill the ones at the opposite end.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Sep 2008 15:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting you should say the glass section of the turret has no framing. If yours is the same as mine you'll find there's no framing on the canopy either.

 Could make masking it up interesting Think
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Sep 2008 16:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decal strips is the way forward for those awkward missing frame moments.  
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I've done some more to this but not a lot of point describing it til I can post some pics. However, the Dornier's fuselage is together - a couple of fit issues but nothing too serious - and the wings are attached. I've sanded the fuse and the wings joins are filled but not yet sanded. The Me328 is all but together now. Needs a bit of filler and a bit of sanding but all OK so far. Will post pics shortly.

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Interesting you should say the glass section of the turret has no framing. If yours is the same as mine you'll find there's no framing on the canopy either


My canopy actually does have some framing... but yes, decal strip could well be the way to go for a lot of it.

After a quick search on t'internet, there are few really good shots of real Do-217Es out there but the ones I have found seem to show no framing on the turret, so I'm taking it as correct.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering what this aircraft is supposed to do?  Is the little jet a bomb?  A kamikaze?
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Me328 was an unpowered prototype for a rocket propelled aircraft, so this combination is not a 'Mistel' in the classic (flying bomb) sense.  I believe that the Do217 is the mothership for for the Me328 glider.....However I'm probably wrong!  

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt.Squarehead wrote:
I think the Me328 was an unpowered prototype for a rocket propelled aircraft, so this combination is not a 'Mistel' in the classic (flying bomb) sense.  I believe that the Do217 is the mothership for for the Me328 glider.....However I'm probably wrong!  

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Close! Yes, the 328 shown here is a glider version and the intention is to carry a rocket motor under each wing. The sort of official version is that the 328 would be a parasite fighter so Do217Es would carry the thing piggy back. It would be launched and used to defend the bomber formation before gliding back to earth. See here.

I'm not sure that this idea really stacks up, though, because surely the bombers would, by definition, be over enemy territory and so gliding back would be a... challenge... shall we say?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..However I'm probably wrong!  


Correct actually, the powered version was fitted with a couple of under slung pulse jets. Vibration in the cockpit when these were running proved to be, er, prohibitive. The glider was launched from the Do 217 for trials.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 14:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the above information and the picture in that link, I'd say that the model depicted in the kit is almost certainly the testbed aircraft for the Me328 prototypes.....I'm pretty sure none ever took to the skies in anger!  

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 15:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt.Squarehead wrote:
Based on the above information and the picture in that link, I'd say that the model depicted in the kit is almost certainly the testbed aircraft for the Me328 prototypes.....I'm pretty sure none ever took to the skies in anger!  

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I'm cerain you're right. What I do find quite amusing is that the chap piloting it in the top photo here appears to be wearing a trilby....

Interestingly the original PM kit allows for both the long and short wing versions of the 328 t be built, whereas the Airifix boxing has only the "long wing" version.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 15:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spotted.....That certainly doesn't look like regulation Luftwaffe flying gear!  

Trumpeter have just released a couple of serious cranes on a slightly simplified version of their 1/72 FAMO chassis.....If you fancy a dio base for your build!  

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I'm certain you're right. What I do find quite amusing is that the chap piloting it in the top photo here appears to be wearing a trilby....


This pic is in the Smith/Kay book and the caption includes the comment 'Curiously the pilot appears to be wearing a trilby hat and trench coat!' Maybe he'd been watching too many Howard Hughes films...

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2008 15:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trilby hat + trenchcoat = spy!
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