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Badwolf
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Posted: Mon 06 Apr 2009 21:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hope the exam goes well. The Sabre is looking good, it'll be interesting to see how the foil will look.  _________________ "It's life Jim, but not as we know it!" - Dr McCoy
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dancho
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 01:29 am Post subject: |
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I won't know about the exam for a few days-- so in the mean time...
This process is described fully in Mirage demo build I did (look in the demo builds section for it). I'm putting the "shiny" side of the foil "up" because I'm going to tone this down later with a clear coat.
This is a very hap-hazard process. I used to think that I had to make each little piece of foil match a panel on the actual plane.
Pffffftttt.....
I don't know where I got that demented idea... but I'm certainly not going to do that any more than I'm going to reproduce all the turnbuckles on a 1/72 scale Albatross. I just cut little chunks of foil and put them on in a crazy-quilt manner. I try to be reasonably neat about it.
I cannot try to match panels or anything even remotely like that. I just want to be able to make something that looks like metal without an airbrush and I think this works.  _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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feanor
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 09:19 am Post subject: |
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Ayup Dan...
Looking through some old FSMs, I'll think you'll find that 'One panel at a time Madness', Demented though it is, IS the actual Idea !
If you just wrap the thing up in a roll of the stuff, it'll look like some GIANT Hoagie... (Hmmm... Hoagie...)
But kudos to you for doing it, though. does the adhesive allow you much give to move it around a little and so forth...? _________________ Airfix Member 022... Jolly Boy.
Remember: 'The Dude Abides'...
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dancho
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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The adhesive is really peculiar. It allows you to put it down and pull it back up a number times before "bad" things (adhesive comes off, foil tears, etc.) will happen. So you can re-position it. But if you put it down and pick it up one-time-too-many it will leave the adhesive on the model and this will create visible lumps under the foil. To demonstrate this I lifted the foil a number of times on the starboard side of the vertical tail, leaving some lumps that can be seen under the foil.
The "panel by panel" idea is wonderful for those that can manage it-- but I know my limitations. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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dancho
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 16:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's finished, but something doesn't look quite right.
Hey! Wait a minute...
Oh my! It looks like we've had a bit of mix up!
Now where did I put that model???
Ah. Here it is.
Well, it was an easy enough mistake to make!
A few more bits to add and then it's on to the decals.
...and lunch. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Sgt.Squarehead
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 16:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yum!
All the best
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feanor
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 16:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ayup Dan !
HA HA ! what a SUPER MODEL...!
I'm glad you had a great Lunch and your Model is also Tasty ! _________________ Airfix Member 022... Jolly Boy.
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ColinM
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 17:06 pm Post subject: |
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Impressive work!
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feanor
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 17:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ayup Colin...
And the Dog's not bad either ! _________________ Airfix Member 022... Jolly Boy.
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Ratch
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2009 19:07 pm Post subject: |
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Great job on the bap
and the dog's not bad either  _________________ and was Jerusalem, builded here
The new No. 2
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dancho
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Posted: Fri 10 Apr 2009 13:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the kind words.
More progress...
Photographing these "metal" planes is very difficult (for me!). This image shows more what it really looks like.
I've already applied a clear coat to "cut" the shine a bit--but not as much as on the Mirage. These aircraft were polished. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Sgt.Squarehead
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Posted: Fri 10 Apr 2009 14:13 pm Post subject: |
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Fantastic finish.....Very impressive!
All the best
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Badwolf
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Posted: Fri 10 Apr 2009 21:11 pm Post subject: |
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Looks great!  _________________ "It's life Jim, but not as we know it!" - Dr McCoy
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thomasweir
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 09:36 am Post subject: |
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Super build, great finish too  |
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tanker221
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 15:02 pm Post subject: |
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That looks great . I'm going to have to find a cheap throwaway kit in the stash to practice that on . _________________ Charlie dont surf ! |
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dancho
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 19:01 pm Post subject: |
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More fiddling about.
I was very unhappy with the Superscale decals. They seemed incorrect and incomplete to me, after looking at photos of 97th FIS planes and at a 48th scale decal sheet from Cutting Edge.
Hmmm..I guess I should do my research BEFORE building the kit and applying the decals!
So I had to try to "fix" the "dragon" (or whatever that red thing is) and I'm not sure I was 100% successful but it's close enough. I cut those two "swooshes" on the tail from red decal film and added them. I also added a little white stripe (decal) around the radome
That white stripe was A LOT of work for such a tiny thing.
Keep an eye on me--if I do enough of this I might take up SHIP MODELING!! _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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dancho
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 19:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'd also like to know this:
Why is it that certain decal makers include instructions that seem to have been printed on a thirty-year-old copying machine at lowest resolution?? What's up with that?? _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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cusack77
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 19:42 pm Post subject: |
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Great looking build! My dad's first aircraft after pilot training was the F-86L, basically an F-86D with slightly longer wings. I've got one of these D's in my stash and have been trying to build up the courage to start it. After seeing the nice finish you got with foil I might have to give it a try myself.
By the way, how'd you come across the aftermarket decals? I may have to go a similar route since my airfix one's are pretty old. |
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dancho
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Posted: Sat 11 Apr 2009 20:09 pm Post subject: |
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| cusack77 wrote: | Great looking build! My dad's first aircraft after pilot training was the F-86L, basically an F-86D with slightly longer wings. I've got one of these D's in my stash and have been trying to build up the courage to start it. After seeing the nice finish you got with foil I might have to give it a try myself.
By the way, how'd you come across the aftermarket decals? I may have to go a similar route since my airfix one's are pretty old. |
Ebay. I get most of my decals this way. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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dancho
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Posted: Sun 12 Apr 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Finally.
More pictures in the gallery. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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