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mattbacon
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 Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008 09:14 am Post subject: Alan Hall Tribute GB - "multiforum" |
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Since Alan Hall was a big influence on most people who slap styrene together, particularly on this side of the pond, can I propose a JOINT "tribute build" with Britmodeller and the UAMF. Not sure exactly how we'd run it across the sites, but I'm sure it could be done. At the end, we could put together a book like the Maurice Landi tribute produced by the UAMF last year. If we ran the GB from Jan-Jun, that would give us time to get the book together for SMW2009...
I'd suggest that the build should be a conversion done by, or inspired by, Alan Hall. It could have appeared in Airfix Magazine or SAM, and it should be done, at least to a certain extent "old school" (ie carved balsa, stretched sprue, crash moulding) rather than with all the latest resin bits and pieces. Maybe it could be in markings featured in a Warpaint book. I say "inspired by", because everything I've ever seen by Alan was 1/72 scale, and those of us who prefer 1/48 might want to reproduce his conversion larger, and ditto for the 1/144 fans, smaller...
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| Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008 19:38 pm Post subject: |
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What, nobody up for this?! Come on peeps let's do it, we have two forums that are saying 'we're in', but no response from the ATF. I am pledging to seek out all AWH articles from my loft archive and make them available to anybody who wants to run with a build. This will be no mean task, since it will involve sifting through dozens of magazines, some dating back to 1961. I will put together a list of all the conversion articles that I can find so that you can choose whatever you fancy, then I will e-mail you the requisite article. But please, no badgering for this until after Telford weekend.
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I'm more than up for it, although I'm pretty sure my meagre efforts won't be "book worthy," It'll be my first conversion. If this forum doesn't take part I'll join the fun on BM.
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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I'm certainly up for this too. I agree this would be a very fitting tribute.
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 13:01 pm Post subject: |
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Matt,
You can count me in, if peebeep can find something suitable for me to have a play with. 
All the best
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Sure thing Sarge, how about a Gladiator to Gauntlet conversion? A nice biplane with lots of rigging!
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 13:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm.....Let me think? 
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 13:26 pm Post subject: |
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Fairey Battle into Fulmar? Piece o' cake...
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 13:30 pm Post subject: |
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Keep going! 
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 14:14 pm Post subject: |
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Avro 504K to Sopwith Baby
Avro 504K to Avro 504N
Avro Anson MkI to pre-War Avro Anson MkI
Avro Anson MkI to Avro Anson T MkI
Avro Anson MkI to Avro Anson MkXII
Avro Anson MkI to Avro Anson T Mk20
Avro Lanc I/III to II
Avro Lancaster to Manchester
Avro Lancaster to Avro York
Boulton Paul Defiant to Defiant TT3 Target Tug
Bristol Beaufighter to Mk II Merlin engined
Bristol Beaufighter to MkX
Bristol Freighter to short-nose version
Consolidated Catalina to Nomad or P2B
Consolidated Catalina to Danish PBY-6A or PBY-5A
Consolidated B-24 Liberator – Liberator transport
Curtiss P-40 to P-36A Hawk
Dassault Mirage IIIc to Australian Mirage IIIo
DH4 to DH9
De Havilland Tiger Moth to dHC Tiger Moth
Douglas Dakota DC-3 to C-47C Amphibian or Li-2
Douglas DC-3 to “Needle-nose” version
Douglas Skyraider to AEW Skyraider
Fairey Swordfish to Floatplane
Fiat G-91 to G-91T
Gloster Gladiator to Gloster Gauntlet
Handley Page Halifax MkIII to MkII
Handley Page Hampden to Handley page Hereford
Hawker Hart to Hawker Hector
Hawker Hurricane MkIV to MkI or MkIId
Heinkel HeIII H-20 to HeIII H-4
Jet Provost T Mk3 to CFS MkI
Junkers Ju-87B Stuka to Ju-87G
Junkers Ju-87B Stuka to Ju-87 D
Lockheed Hudson to Lockheed Ventura
Lockheed P38J to a RAF Lightning
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II to RF-4C
Me262A to Me262 VI or Me262 V3 or Me262BIa/UI or Me262B2a or Me262C-2b or Me262A-1a/UI or Me262 V56 or Me262A-2a/U2 or Me262E and A-I V-83 or Me262A-Ia/U3 or Me-262C-Ia
Me262A to Me262B-Ia/UI Nightfighter
Mig-21 Fishbed to Mig-21 Mongol
Mitsubishi Ki 46-II Dinah to Ki 46IIIA
NA Harvard MkII to MkI
North American P-51D Mustang to P-51B (RAF Mustang III)
Republic P-47D to P-47N
Sopwith Camel and Revell Sopwith Triplane to Sopwith Pup
Short Stirling to MkV Cargo version
Supermarine Spitfire MkV to MkXVIe
Supermarine Spitfire MkIX to PRXI or HFVII
Supermarine Spitfire MkIX to a MkVII or MkVIII
Westland Scout to Westland Wasp
Westland Whirlwind S-55 to H-19
Enough to be going on with?
I will be attempting to compile a full list including articles from SAM, post Telford.
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Dibs on the defiant Target Tug
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| Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008 15:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Stirling Mk V appeals the most, but I don't really have room for the assembly of such a leviathan right now! 
I also rather like the sound of a Merlin engined Beaufighter II.....If one was truly nuts, one could presumably even go a step further:
http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/beaufightervds_1.htm
I'd never heard of such a thing! 
For what it's worth, all the best
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PS - Did "Cat's-Eyes" Cunningham really fly a MkII? Are there profiles? If so my decision is made! 
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Having never ever tried doing a conversion on a kit, I'm a bit tentative on saying yes. However, I had planned on getting a CMR Avro York kit for a spare Lancaster I have sitting around. If it's not horrendously difficult, I might be interested in the one listed above by peebeep.
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| Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008 08:29 am Post subject: |
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The ATF will certainly take part in the multi-forum tribute to honour Alan Hall. The ATF GB will be of Airfix kits with conversions from the Airfix magazines, so get your obechi sheets, balsa and talcum powder/dope ready!
Sarge, I believe the Rapide was submitted for the same Air Ministry requirements as the Anson - you could do a Rapide conversion with a scratchbuilt turret .
I'm interested in the Anson conversion to an early Mk.I, it involves smash molding a new transparency. Anyone know where to get hold of suitable acetate?
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| Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008 13:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'll do a sift through the magazines to find what artciles I have.
The Avro 504 to a Soptwith baby sounds challenging.
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| Richard M wrote: | The ATF will certainly take part in the multi-forum tribute to honour Alan Hall. The ATF GB will be of Airfix kits with conversions from the Airfix magazines, so get your obechi sheets, balsa and talcum powder/dope ready!
I'm interested in the Anson conversion to an early Mk.I, it involves smash molding a new transparency. Anyone know where to get hold of suitable acetate?
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How about the method of building up a canopy using clear nail polish over a balsa mould? |
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| Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008 16:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sarge, I believe the Rapide was submitted for the same Air Ministry requirements as the Anson - you could do a Rapide conversion with a scratchbuilt turret . |
Be still, my beating heart! 
Nope, it will be a Beaufighter II for me, probably from 307 Squadron (Polish) as that is all I can find in the way of profiles.....What will I need to mutilate for the correct Merlins I wonder?
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| Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008 16:30 pm Post subject: |
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The idea Sarge, is to do it AWH style, so get some balsa wood, talcum powder, dope and start whittling!
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| Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008 19:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Sgt.Squarehead wrote: | What will I need to mutilate for the correct Merlins I wonder?
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It was my understanding that the Merlin "power egg" used for the Lancaster was so chosen because it was already in production for the Beaufighter. I would think that it would need little, if any, alteration (but that's wishful thinking, I know).
Edit: If you convert TWO Beaufighters into Mk IIs with Merlins, you could convert ONE Lancaster into a Mk II with the Hercules engines. |
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| Posted: Tue 11 Nov 2008 05:28 am Post subject: |
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Not the way I wield a razor saw.....I'll be lucky to get one Beaufighter II out of a Lancaster and two Beaufighters!
All the best
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PS - If I want to whittle, I'll get a Maquette kit out of the stash! 
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