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Owen · Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2009 20:44 pm Post subject:

As far as my experiences go, Micro Set/Sol can be used on any decal - no matter what the size

It is always worth testing the decal sheet first - apply a bit of the black edging of the sheet to a test area to make sure the Set/Sol don't react with them - there are numerous stories of decals dissolving when used with the solutions. All the Airfix decals I've used in the past have been fine, I think it is really only a concern with certain eastern european and chinese kits where they are produced quite crudely.

If you don't know, Microset goes onto the surface you are to put the decal on, then when it is in place, Microsol is used to conform the decal to the surface. This does cause the decal to wrinkle up but over time it will sort itself out again and lie flat

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daniel7891 · Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2009 20:57 pm Post subject:

Many thanks Owen. When you say use the black edging, do you apply the microsol on to it on the sheet and see what happens?
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Owen · Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2009 20:59 pm Post subject:

Find a smooth surface (like an old CD or something similar) and just apply the decal in the same way you would if you were putting it onto a model

If the decal settles with no problems, you're in business!

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daniel7891 · Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2009 21:01 pm Post subject:

Right, now I get it. Thanks Owen
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daniel7891 · Posted: Thu 22 Jan 2009 20:24 pm Post subject:

As promised the pics of my progress so far

Firstly we have The kit after days of sanding and filling. I have lost some of the surface detail

I then sprayed the yellow nose and tail in the markings of JG53 of Josef Priller. Once masked I sprayed the underside and the fuselage in Hu65 Light Aircraft Blue. this needed two coats to cover the filler and primer.

I then sprayed the brown on the wings. I used Hu26 Khaki. Then masked that using tape and sprayed the green using Hu30

It has now had two coats of Klear. I went to put the decals on and I have come to the conclusion that I HATE AIRFIX DECALS AND IT IS THE LAST TIME I AM USING THEM!. When I put them in they sort of sizzled and craked into several peices and sveral smaller ones when I put them on the model. I could not put the tiny writing ones on the model which is a shame, but on my ceiling I wouldn't see them anyway

Once they dry over night I will apply a coat of microsol and then a couple of coats of klear or matt coat

More pictures later
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Ratch · Posted: Thu 22 Jan 2009 21:24 pm Post subject:

Are you doing Priller's machine

and have you read this

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glen3312 · Posted: Thu 22 Jan 2009 21:35 pm Post subject:

looking good daniel, keep up the good work

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daniel7891 · Posted: Thu 22 Jan 2009 22:18 pm Post subject:

Ratch · Posted: Thu 22 Jan 2009 23:07 pm Post subject:

I wondered because I put Microsol onto the decal immediately its in position whereas you were talking about letting it dry before applying it

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daniel7891 · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 07:55 am Post subject:

Ah, I see. I only let it dry off and adhere for a while becasue those decals were in that small pieces the slightest moistness world have moved them
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feanor · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 08:12 am Post subject:

Ayup Daniel...

Nice SHARP masking....

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Owen · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 08:26 am Post subject:

Looking good so far - what airbrush do you use btw? Or are you using cans?
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daniel7891 · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:03 pm Post subject:

Thanks Owen and Feanor

Its the Aztek A470. (dont all yell at me at once

)

I had one of those cheap no name brands from ebay and when that broke I was looking for a new one and after seeing the excellent work done by Brett Green and by Zero (Dave) on this site it decided it for me. So far it has been excellent
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feanor · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:05 pm Post subject:

walrus · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:24 pm Post subject:

looking good so far Daniel

the splinter pattern seems very sharp-

sorry the decals went and dissolved on you-a real pity
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is there any chance of using after market decals or getting in touch with Airfix?

daniel7891 · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:36 pm Post subject:

Thanks Paul.

The decals dont look too bad as I have touched them up with paint so hopefully I wont need to get aftermarket ones, but I will in the future. I dont really see the point with getting replacements from airfix and they will probably be the same brown paper ones.
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walrus · Posted: Fri 23 Jan 2009 14:23 pm Post subject:

cool- look forward to seeing the progress Daniel

daniel7891 · Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2009 17:57 pm Post subject:

I declare this model finished

I have really enjoyed this build and has given me the chance to try out some new techniques. If I did it again I would take more time and make all the removable parts work. Also I managed to snap the guns off and loose the aerial mast which I will scratch at some later stage. Also I wouldn't use the kit decals as they were truely awful

Anyway enough of the rambling here it is:

One taken at night

The others taken in daylight

I would value your opinions
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feanor · Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2009 18:00 pm Post subject:

Ayup Daniel...

A very NICE build. Really, very well done. But get that Aerial and rigging on before you forget ! it looks Naked !
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daniel7891 · Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2009 18:02 pm Post subject:

Thanks feanor. I will get some plastic strip stuff and fashion one out of that
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