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PubZombie · Black Star Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 36

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Loll · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 12:51 pm Post subject:

Well PubZombie there are some rather sweeping statements there.
'Blitzkrieg' is a very accurate description of a method of battle not previously used to any great effect. It is lightning war, the method of warfare carried out by a highly intense attack which is continuous until the defender is defeated, or great progress achieved.
Previous to WWII most attackers met their opposition in anything from a complete line up on a designated field of battle, to deliberate ambushes. The obvious difference being that 'Blitzkrieg' involved several different forces of arms. The intention being to completely overwhelm the opposition forces.

The modern equivalent might be the "Shock and Awe" of Allied forces in Iraq.

Declarations of war used to proceed battles by many months and the point of battle would be mutually decided beforehand. 'Blitzkrieg' is most effective with no prior warning given for example Pearl Harbour, where the Japanese used their own brand of a type of 'Blitzkrieg' only on a smaller scale, if they could have followed that up with a large land force the result would have been even more devastating.

I have yet to see any serious reference quoting 'Blitzkrieg' as anything different to any other reference.

The Bf was and still is an accurate reference applied to once existant aircraft. Me was used in a similar context. Either is as accurate as "Spaghetti Junction" or "Midlands Motorway Interchange", maybe even "Gravelly Hill Interchange", all are correct, and thus interchangeable, although to be pedantic only the official, original name should be correct.
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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

stukaman · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 13:09 pm Post subject:

Hi PZ

I have just finished the Fujimi BF110c/d 1/48 scale.
http://airfixtributeforum.myfastf...itt_Bf_110D_5a28__about15537.html

Great kit for it's age (1977), no fit problems at all, you can get it cheap on ebay, though you'll probably need to get aftermarket decals, due to the age & aftermarket cockpit detail as the interior is very sparse, which makes it a not so cheap kit.

Anyway here's a review of the kit
http://www.swannysmodels.com/Bf110cd.html

the Eduard kits look pretty good, some reviews here:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft48_dg.shtml

cheers
Mark
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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Not sure about 'Blitzkreig' but there's a whole list of wartime terms which basically seem to be myth - take 'Whispering Death' which allegedly the Japanese called the Beaufighter, and the 'Flying Porcupine' which the Germans allegedly called the Sunderland. There is considerable doubt that these were anything other than the creation of Allied propagandists, but are often repeated as fact. I would add to the 'La Muerta Negra' which Argentinian soldiers/pilots are said to have called RN Sea Harriers in the Falklands. Any evidence for this anyone?

How long before the mods split this off into a separate thread then. Anyone taking bets?

Loll · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 13:25 pm Post subject:

I don't think those were the first words that came to mind with the Argentinian pilots ... ROTFL

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Sgt.Squarehead · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 14:10 pm Post subject:

Gentlemen.....We are wandering Off Topic

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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Brews · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 15:17 pm Post subject:

I have in the back of my mind a reference to the "Me Bf 109 / 110" which hedges bets!
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Loll · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 17:50 pm Post subject:

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Loll · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 22:57 pm Post subject:

Me or Bf ..... ?? Look
here

The opening lines answer the question.

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Brews · Posted: Wed 23 Sep 2009 23:04 pm Post subject:

tempestfan · Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2009 09:50 am Post subject:

If I may add my mustard to the sauce - IIRC in the RLM type listings there were no mfr. abbreviations at all, the aircraft being prefixed "8-" for security purposes. And I also think that at least from mid production onwards (109F) both "Bf" and "Me" could be found on Mfr.'s plates, I recall some mag article or reader's letter on this topic from the late 70s or 80s, probably in Modell Fan or Flugzeug. So I doubt we should be too dogmatic here...
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XN923 · Bronze Star Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 1176

Well, I've got an Eduard 110 on order so should be able to report back on the relative qualities of that machine at some stage. Particularly as I'll be building what comes through the door rather than what is in the stash until the pest controllers can sort out the hornets' nest in my roof...