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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Mon 19 Oct 2009 11:56 am Post subject:

Thank you hewman for that, PM inbound.

I have rubbed all the leading edges down and there was no problems with gaps and no filler was required.
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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Mon 19 Oct 2009 22:07 pm Post subject:

A bit of a progress report ...
I have painted the upper surfaces of the aircraft and awaiting the camouflage plan to arrive.
I shall try and detail the turrets a bit more as they are quite bare to say the least, more so as i wont be putting in the crew members. made a start on masking the turrets and i'm looking at trying to replicate the FN20 rear turret as provide on the Mk.III. front turret need a lot of detail i think.
Undercarriage painted and shall be fitted when i have painted the engine cowlings etc.

Incidentally does anybody know of the presents of 'Walk-Lines' on the wings???
i presume to refuel they 'erks' must have climbed upon the wings and being of fabric i was just thinking about that ??

I have read also that the fuselage front turret housing was cut-back to enable the front turret to traverse wider so i may consider doing something along those lines as well.

Been giving the bomb-bay a good coat of looking at and in particularly the actual bomb doors ....
Seems that the Mod.423 to enable the 'Cookie' to be carried meant the removal of the beam structure that split the bay into three cells so i am in a position where i could just put a Cookie in the bomb-bay ...

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hewman100 · Posted: Tue 20 Oct 2009 09:29 am Post subject:

You should have mail!
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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Tue 20 Oct 2009 10:09 am Post subject:

I'm got mail.

Its a bit different to the Airfix camouflage and i much prefer the one you have sent through.

Thank you.
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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Tue 20 Oct 2009 19:40 pm Post subject:

Well i have set to and cut-out the camouflage 'mask' for the Wellington.
You will hopefully notice that i have cut beyond the fuselage on the second photo in order to bend the mask down the sides of the fuselage as its held in place ...

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Steven Pietrobon · Posted: Wed 21 Oct 2009 06:38 am Post subject:

Lincolnlanc, what is the masking material you are using?
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hewman100 · Posted: Wed 21 Oct 2009 09:36 am Post subject:

It came from Mr. Bowyers 'Bombing Colours 1937-45' LL. If you haven't got a copy it's very useful and informative.
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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Wed 21 Oct 2009 10:23 am Post subject:

Steven
I've had a full scale copy made up on 200g card and then cut-out one colour of the camouflage pattern. (Tried 300g on a Lancaster but it is differcult to cut round the curves although its more rigid, i just used Tamiya tape to hold the 200 in place).

I usually hand paint the dark earth overall on the aircraft and then with the mask placed over, draw in the camo lines and then paint.

The beauty of these mask is that subsequent aircraft will have the same camouflage pattern as i am currently building several Lancasters then its just the ticket

(When my camera has charged i'll post a couple of pictures).
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Steven Pietrobon · Posted: Thu 22 Oct 2009 05:23 am Post subject:

Thanks Lincolnlanc!
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Ratch · Posted: Thu 22 Oct 2009 08:12 am Post subject:

I'm intrigued by this masking method Think

Presumably the mask doesn't seal like masking tape

Do you brush paint the camo areas

If you used these masks for airbrushing, will it leave a soft edge

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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Thu 22 Oct 2009 09:08 am Post subject:

Ratch/Steven
The 'mask' is made from 200 gramme card ...

and after painting the base coat dark earth i then over-lay the 'mask' and draw the camo lines.

This is then hand-painted to complete the camouflage.

I suppose as a one-off you could airbrush and then dispose of the mask but i usually hand paint, thus saving it ...
but also as i am building several Lancasters I can re-use the mask time and time again giving me a constant camouflage pattern ...
You would need the advice of an 'Air-sprayer' to discover if it would a 'soft' edge i'm afraid ...
I have used the same principle on the Wellington ...

It cost me, for two copies of the Wellington plan (A3 size) and 2 x A3 Lancaster plans 0.62p so it aint expensive to try
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Ratch · Posted: Thu 22 Oct 2009 12:53 pm Post subject:

So you actually use it as a template rather than a mask

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Hardtarget · Posted: Thu 22 Oct 2009 13:05 pm Post subject:

Thats my understanding of this method. Paint an underside colour (brown) then use the templte to mark the green, then paint.
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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Fri 23 Oct 2009 08:20 am Post subject:

I would liken the term 'Mask' to the kind worn by Dick Turpin or Robin Hood. There to temporary cover the face (of the Wing) although the term 'Template' being more in line with 'Mould'.

(Didn't you ever produce such a mask when you was a kiddie and rob from the rich, my Dad was robbed of change more than once

)

WE wont split hairs but you at least have an understanding of the method employed there

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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Mon 26 Oct 2009 20:06 pm Post subject:

Made a start on the bomb-bay. Bombs made up from the Lancaster and i am putting in section to divide the bay into 'Cells'.
I shall be making, hopefully, a fair representation of the bb doors construction ...

Also made a small improvement to the cockpit area, although you can't see much, the pilots seat is in the wrong position and i have omitted the second pilots seat as this was a ''bucket' seat that folded up/down presumable to allow easier passage through the aircraft.
New cockpit floor and new (scratch) pilots seat done.

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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Thu 29 Oct 2009 12:04 pm Post subject:

Intial start on the bomb-bay door construction.
There were five doors on the Wimpey with A middle one for the middle 'cell'; two for each outer cell.
As the original Wimpey doors on the kit, when cut-off, all to thick, i have utilised the bomb doors off an old Revell Lancaster. These will form the 'outer' doors as they have the curve.
Starting with a diagram with the basic measurements on, then sub-divided into 'sections' in this case i have put in FOUR section per door.
I still need to construct the inverted 'V' bracing on all of them to complete the doors having already completed the middle door.
I like to take my time with this kinda thing so it will be a day or so before they are finnished and i shall post another photo then ...

A couple of photos showing the bombs in place to give you an idea. I have split the bay into the three cells as per aircraft. Obviously need to paint the internal bits and then add the doors before securing the bombs permanantly

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hewman100 · Posted: Fri 30 Oct 2009 20:48 pm Post subject:

Superb job LL.
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The Migrant · Posted: Sun 01 Nov 2009 23:31 pm Post subject:

Excellent work, LincolnLanc. I use the same paper mask technique as you, but I attach the masks with small blobs of BluTac so they sit fractionally above the wing surface. When I airbrush I get a slightly soft edge which looks 'to-scale'. There's no reason why the masks couldn't be used again on a second or third model if I wanted to replicate the scheme exactly.

Ratch · Posted: Sun 01 Nov 2009 23:37 pm Post subject:

Thanks Mike, that's similar to how I expected them to work with an airbrush

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Lincolnlanc · Posted: Mon 02 Nov 2009 17:57 pm Post subject:

Nice finnish on that Mike.

An easy technique i think you would agree to getting a good camouflage pattern and the beaut of it all is that the same technique can be used on virtually any WWII aircraft.

Wellingtom Update:
The bomb bay is completed and both fuselage halves are glued together with the top section of the fuselage painted the base colour. The interior of the bay needs painting before i secure the bombs, of which i am looking forward to seeing myself as i've never seen a Wimpey' modelled this way previous, unless anybody knows of one

Apologises for slightly out of focus but its differcult to try and photo WHITE at this time of night indoors and what with the moon being full ...

I am going to add a 'little' more detail to the turrets.

Not to far away now and with the new decals ready ...
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