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PostPosted: Thu 27 Apr 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Auster Reply with quote

Is it me or does the prop on this kit turn the wrong way ?
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PostPosted: Mon 01 May 2006 21:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my continuing look into the Auster Antarctic / AOP6 I was curious about the tail of the aircraft depicted on box art of the latest release . This is not the tail set as supplied in the kit but is correct for WE600 and WE563 .
http://www.planecheck.com/aspdet.asp?nr=5152
The pictures on this site show Austers interior green colour which is darker than what we would normally expect for this colour but normal for Austers . This aircraft also shows the larger tail set as fitted to the Antarctic T7/C4. The fin , rudder and horizontal stabs are all larger than those of the AOP6 as supplied in the kit .
For Australians , the aircraft they aquired from the RAF Antarctic Expedition were VX126 and VX127 , these were from an earlier time and had standard AOP6 tail sets .
T7s normally had the same tail set as the AOP6 , the kit needs the mass balance to be added to the top of the rudder .
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PostPosted: Sun 07 May 2006 03:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nevilshute.org/PhotoLine/PDL-1951-1960/Graphics/auster.jpg
Would anyone know anything about this photo ? My guess is that the aircraft is painted Light Sand and that this is somewhere in the middle East or maybe Cyprus ?
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 09:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some updated info on this Auster HERE


Interesting about the colour changes.  It seems that the 'Cosford' colour was obtained via the aircraft it'self when the fuselage covering was renewed. This would be the original ( unless of course it was changed during one of it's many repairs in the fifties ? ) colour which had been applied over the silver ex-factory colour.

It was painted Trainer-Yellow in the sixties. Which means both sides of the yellow/orange debate were right but at different times.

One item missing from the details is the damage to the fin while at Cosford    

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 21:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that , very interesting . Can anyone tell my about the seating in the Austers , I believe the AOP VI had three seats , did this also apply to the T7 and Antarctic ?
What happend to Pingu ? I am sure he responded to the original question . Did he commit a sin I missed ? Was he made to walk the plank ?
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 21:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What happend to Pingu ? I am sure he responded to the original question . Did he commit a sin I missed ? Was he made to walk the plank ?

He walked away in a huff a long time ago  Topic Closed!
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 21:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did he commit a sin I missed ? Was he made to walk the plank ?


ROTFL

Don't ask!

The AOP VI, T7 and Antarctic (modified T7) had two seats, the AOP 9 could be two or three seats.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 22:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KIWI wrote:
Did he commit a sin I missed ? Was he made to walk the plank ?


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Don't ask!

The AOP VI, T7 and Antarctic (modified T7) had two seats, the AOP 9 could be two or three seats.

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That is correct on the seats AOP9 was built as three seat as std two was an option. (possibly the third seat was removeable ? )


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Mar 2008 23:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(possibly the third seat was removeable ? ).


Apparently the third seat could be removed and extra radio gear fitted. Or that some were manufactured like that. I read that somewhere or other, but my copy of Thetford's Aircraft of the RAF simply says three seat.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 07:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Yellow is correct for WE600, the same serial as Airfix's kit:

"2007 Further refurbishment by RAFM technicians at the MBCC Cosford, including rear fuselage fabric and cockpit door repairs, and repaint into original overall yellow paint scheme, of which evidence was fund during the refurbishment."
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 08:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit ambiguous , I think yes it has been displayed in yellow so in that respect it could be correct . However while in the Antarctic it was an orange , in the information given Bright Orange . I was under the impression it was a colour called Light Orange , same colour as used on the Whirlwind also in use down there .
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 09:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a bit ambiguous , I think yes it has been displayed in yellow so in that respect it could be correct . However while in the Antarctic it was an orange , in the information given Bright Orange . I was under the impression it was a colour called Light Orange , same colour as used on the Whirlwind also in use down there .



Nothing ambiguous here if you look at my post further up with the link in it, it gives a pretty clear history.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing ambiguous here if you look at my post further up with the link in it, it gives a pretty clear history.


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Repainted in trainer yellow, replacing the Antarctic orange colour scheme.


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 18:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ambiguity to me is that it is stated "2007......."repainted into original overall yellow" The most recent pictures I have seen have it in orange .
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 18:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this little kit still about?  It is one I'd very much like to have a go at again because of its battlefield role and for a certain nostalgia value.....Anyone else remember the 'Commando' (or was it Victor) stories about a bazooka armed Auster?  As a kid this was one of my first attempts at a 'conversion'.  

As I understand it there is a problem with the transparencies included in the kit, in that there is a dorsal observation blister which makes the canopy unsuitable for an AOP.  Has there ever been an aftermarket canopy for this kit or is the problem easily fixable without replacement parts?  As usual 100% accuracy is not a real issue here so I may just leave it alone.  

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 18:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ambiguity to me is that it is stated "2007......."repainted into original overall yellow" The most recent pictures I have seen have it in orange .


Must have been the same 'yellow' that my Volvo was painted with, always looked like bright orange to me but Volvo called it   (something) yellow.    [I should have waited the extra three weeks and bought a red one which they probably called purple]

I notice they paid for the colour as is was  "fund during refurbishment"    

As the latest pics show it, with the fin repaired and, repainted in a distinctive orange I'll go with that.


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 18:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this little kit still about?  It is one I'd very much like to have a go at again because of its battlefield role and for a certain nostalgia value.....Anyone else remember the 'Commando' (or was it Victor) stories about a bazooka armed Auster?  As a kid this was one of my first attempts at a 'conversion'.  

As I understand it there is a problem with the transparencies included in the kit, in that there is a dorsal observation blister which makes the canopy unsuitable for an AOP.  Has there ever been an aftermarket canopy for this kit or is the problem easily fixable without replacement parts?  As usual 100% accuracy is not a real issue here so I may just leave it alone.  

TIA & All the best


Yes this kit is still widely available and even some of the AOP ones too but it is the same kit and same markings in both.

Canopy : cut out the blistered section and fit flat clear section, or go really posh and shape a gentle curvature bothways to replace it.


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008 21:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a lovely little kit , looks OK built out of the box , and has enough room for improvement to interest those that like to detail .
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008 02:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the interior colour for military Austers ? I know Auster had there own interior green for the frame work and that the instrument panel was black , so what about seats floor and sides ? Any assistance appreciated .
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Nov 2008 03:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also like to know a little more about military Auster AOPs.....I'm slightly surprised that it has never ocurred to Airfix to give this kit an upgrade to full military spec, possibly as an extra option in the existing kit.  

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