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PostPosted: Mon 05 Mar 2007 18:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well how about we get some basic designs posted up. Just do some sribbles on a sheet of A4 paper and scan them in!
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Mar 2007 20:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i have no idea how this will ever happen. its too complicated, and no one is posting! how are we ever going to get down and think about kicking off this build! its meant to be a " running build " but its nothing like running! lets get down to buisness?

It is not a race and it is not too complicated. A lot of the fun is in the design and getting it right and I don't mind if it takes another six months to do that. You will see that this diorama joint build does not have an end-date. That is so that we do not rush the design because of a time constraint. Anyway, once the design is finalised it's not going to take very long to knock up the diorama, vehicles etc.

If there are no other suggestions for a layout by the end of March, then we will have to go for one of the ideas suggested already. Then we can go to the Diorama Design thread to thrash out the layout, dimensions etc.

I've done some scribbles of my "Atfville-on-Sea" idea (based on Looe) already, in fact I did them a few weeks ago. You will recall that it consists of three boards (fields/village/beach) that not only form one large diorama but individually they are complete ones too. I will knock up a smaller scribble that I can scan on my PC. I will get the drawing up onto the forum when I've only got 1001 things to do.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Mar 2007 21:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking about it too. I like the idea of 'Atfville-on-Sea' though. I'd definatly like to have a part to play in the construction of the board with the railway on it though. I can definatly help to design a realistic layout for that part!
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've done some scribbles of my "Atfville-on-Sea" idea (based on Looe) already, in fact I did them a few weeks ago. You will recall that it consists of three boards (fields/village/beach) that not only form one large diorama but individually they are complete ones too. I will knock up a smaller scribble that I can scan on my PC. I will get the drawing up onto the forum when I've only got 1001 things to do.

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AFTon-super-Mare?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a scribble of mine. Apologies for the child-like drawing - I never was good at art! It's even worse using a mouse! It was designed in such a way as to be split in three quite easily (the red lines are the joins), or even six if necessary. The right hand join runs down the centre of a light road. The left hand join has bushes (bright green blobs) and then a brick wall (dark red) on the left board.



As you can see, there is a beach landing area with a pier (AA gun at the end?), a village (perhaps only a couple of houses and a church) for street-to-street fighting and some fields where tanks could be breaking out from the beachead and attacking the railway station. Down at the bottom, there is the quayside where perhaps a small boat could be tied up. Other features, yet to be suggested by participants will need incorporating too. BTW, the two red squares are supposed to be pillboxes and RS is the railway station which looks as if it has been hit already!

I'm sure somebody with more artistic skills and a good knowledge of dioramas will be able to knock this into some sort of shape but at least there is something to work on. Some the features are probably out of scale and some may have to be dropped completely. As I won't be building any of the diorama base, I leave it to others to work out what can and cannot be done.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AFTon-super-Mare?

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Or should that be AFTon-super-Mud!

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The left hand pillbox is a bit oddly sited, maybe it could be moved closer to either the railway or the road bridge at the river mouth.

There's also plenty of scope for dragon's teeth, both on the promenade and either side of the mouth of the river, I remember a fun morning surveying a row across the mouth of a small creek near Goldcliff years ago. They were just simple cubes of concrete.

Speaking of mud, perhaps some flats at the river mouth, studded with anti-glider poles?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pillbox is supposed to be near the bridge.....

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The pillbox is supposed to be near the bridge.....

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I did wonder if one or other of the road and railway were embanked and how that would effect the setting of the pillbox. Not to mention the building of the baseboards.....

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I envisaged the railway being on a slight embankment but not the road. The joins will have to be at the same level as the centre board obviously, but that is about all.

BTW, the picture was posted solely to demonstrate my idea of "ATFVille-on-Sea" which should be considered along with other suggestions. Something completely different could still be chosen so it's best not to get too carried away with what I scribbled. As I said earlier in this thread, when we have chosen the sort of layout we want then we can go to the Diorama Design thread to thrash out the actual layout features, terrain, dimensions etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 15:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the design. Although I think we should try to cut down on the amount of water, it is very hard to model, and joining up the edges will be very hard!
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 16:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following your idea Dave, this is a little scribble I've gone for the inland section:



It might not be completely in proportion, but it could be a good place to start.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 17:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your design certainly has potential
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 18:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Owen,

Your drawing is a lot better than mine and more represents my idea than my drawing does! As for the water, the sea part can be reduced to almost nothing, allowing more beach, and at the bottom it could disappear before the first join. Then on the left board, we could just have the river disappearing at the bottom right hand corner without crossing the join either.

Of course, this design might not even be chosen.....!

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 19:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it might be a nice idea to include the Airfix 1/72 E-Boat moored up on the quaside with supplies being unloaded, or for it about to patrol the nearby shores.

We should also definatly have some rebel units somewhere in the town, and out in the country side.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 19:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if this has been said but ...

Who gets the final Diorama ? :O
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Mar 2007 19:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody in theory although there have been suggestions that after displaying it at a couple of model shows, then it can be donated to a museum or similar organisation. Until then, the diorama bases will be held by those making them and the models will either be sent to them so that each section can be photographed, or held by the original builders until they can all come get together at a show.

The final decision on it's disposal will be a joint one made by those who sign up to, and participate in, it's build.

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I think if somewhere like Duxford would except it then they should have it. Many of us go there, so it would be nice to see our work in a familiar place!
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thats HUGE!!! i didnt know it was to be that big! cool!


I love the idea of donating this.

We could have a "jolly boys outing" photo shoot of us with the dio!!!
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Hey All!

I think I might have found the cheapest way for us to build lots of houses cheaply and in large numbers. I'm a member of another Model Railway Based forum (New Railway Modellers Forums) and one very popular company over there is called Scalescenes. They make building kits that you can buy. However, you pay for a file to download, and you then print off the designs of the kits onto card and build them this way. They do some terraced houses and once you buy one, you can use it over and over and over again!

http://scalescenes.com/
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