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thanks thats brilliant i dont know if its going to be set in northern ireland or not but i will use the loading bay as i have seen a lot in britian

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well its that time again to apologise for the lack of updates this time i have been more focused on my acf jcic (Junior Cadet Instructors Cardre) i passed but while doing that i have decided the guard room will be the top hut off the airfix control tower and i have already scratchbuilt one of those yellow and black little bump things one thing i would like to know is a list of all armoured vehicles used in NI as it would help as this dio is going to have the vehicles and crews getting ready for a patrol
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A great deal depends on the date and location of any diorama as the equipment changed over time. In addition, in some areas, patrols were mainly carried out on foot, often with helicopter insertion.

In the early days, it was a bit of hodge-podge, including Saracens and Humber 'Pigs'. The latter soldiered on (as discussed earlier in the thread) but in later years were probably more likely to be seen in urban areas or in emergency situations (e.g. where a quick reaction force had been deployed). An unusual vehicle was a Centurion AVRE used during Operation Motorman.

Where 'green' vehicles were used on a routine basis for vehicle patrols (such as in Belfast), the main vehicle was typically some type of Landrover. For much of the Troubles, this was a Series III 3/4 or 1/2t Landrover enhanced with the VPK (Vehicle Protection Kit). They were sometimes known as Piglets or Makrolon Landrovers (although not much makrolon was used, I believe). This link gives an overview: http://www.emlra.org/vehicles/VPK.htm

In the early 1980s, the more heavily armoured APV (armoured patrol vehicle) was introduced. I think this was based on the Landrover 110 series and was a much more serious piece of kit.

In the early 90s, the first of the (now) controversial Snatch Landrovers were introduced.

Perhaps it's also worth pointing out that RUC operated many armoured vehicles, including police cars and the well-known Hotspur (which served throughout the 80s). If on a joint operation with the Army, a Hotspur could be appropriate.

Although there could be exceptions, vehicle patrols were usually pairs of vehicles so that's worth taking into consideration.

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Thanks realthing for the info its a great help i may have to pick up some british bobies and convert them a bit to be an ruc constable

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not much done today trying to find suitable chain mesh for the windows of the guard room

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Further to what armoured vehicles were used. I remember Ferrets and armoured Bedford trucks being used in 1974.
The trucks had what looked like local depot applied sheet steel on the sides of both the cab and body, up to almost the full height of the tilt, and wire mesh over the cab windows. A gpmg was mounted on the ring on the cab roof. Some of the trucks had a bit of steel at the back of the cab positioned to protect the back of the machinegunner. The trucks also had anti-wire posts on the front of the cab. Some had a second on the front of the body.
The Ferrets looked standard but mounted twin mgs in the turret.
There was a REME depot not far from where I lived and I saw about 20 -24 of these Bedfords heading out one day, with the Ferrets, about 10, escorting them.
Later I saw some of them in action with the APCs.

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thanks fred i did see the armoured trucks opn a photo and bw models do a model or 2 of them thanks

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well its that time again to apologise for the lack of updates this time i have been more focused on my acf jcic (Junior Cadet Instructors Cardre) i passed but while doing that i have decided the guard room will be the top hut off the Airfix control tower and i have already scratchbuilt one of those yellow and black little bump things one thing i would like to know is a list of all armoured vehicles used in NI as it would help as this dio is going to have the vehicles and crews getting ready for a patrol
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A nice subject for an NI troubles diorama would be one of the modified Green Goddess fire engines, with mesh on the windows, and the hose reels covered up to stop them being slashed. Seems mad now, doesn't it? Oxford Diecast have made a superb version of this, along with an RUC Landrover. [Which is getting quite hard to find]


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Alright then lack of updates has been an issue but i havent had the drive to work on this but now I do.
As everyone now knows the next project will be a guard room but i have decided to do it based on a ww2 raf guardroom. But based in Northern Ireland which suits me more as i can buy more airfix stuff for that era,so thats it for today.
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Today i have been painting aq couple of raf personel and have been making the interior of the guard room

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well as the airfield isnt on my NI topic it has been done on its own
today i have been doing some painting of my PSNI tangi landrover cant wait to get another one i may buy a couple of these so i can have a fleet of them

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Well its been a while since i posted anything in this topic but i am going to buy a couple of Saracens to build into a patrol scene i am in the process of building and im tempted to buy a couple of other vehicles from BW models especially the Saxon.

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Shock horror when i got to the model shop i found they only had 1 Saracen (That I snapped up) but on a lighter note i went out with £80 and came back with £30

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Well its good news today, popped down to wakefield model and craft centre and picked up another Saracen of which i have converted the steering to show it turning. But the biggest surprise of the day was i picked up some caeser miniatures  terrorists that are perfect to portray some IRA blokes attacking a patrol of 3 Saracens, pictures to follow.

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just finished making the bull bar assembly ,plus i have painted two of the IRA men and they look superb

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here are the first pictures, the three Saracens are in different stages ones got the steering and ones got a bull bar   Image
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The AFVs are coming on well, nice variation between them.

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That looks like great progress.
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Well its been a while but I have been working
all three Saracens are different
1 is just a standard mklll in NATO green
1 is a mklll but the steering has been turned also it is in NATO green and black
1 is a mkll with bull bar
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the BW models shorland armoured car has had transfers attached and been varnished and as I made a bit of a mess of the BW models hvpk land rover, I have used parts of it attached to an  airfix land rover series 3 to make a hvpk
and it has transfers.
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