I dug this old fella out of the stash last year some time and he has been a slow but ongoing project. Here are some recent progress photos. The first one is a bit blurry I'm afraid but it's the only one I have with the box in it!

The box is quite an old one, but I don't know which year exactly - I expect someone hereabouts will be keen to tell me - please?!. They come up on eBay occasionally but they're not cheap - I really hope Airfix still have the moulds for this one and consider a re-issue one day.



I decided to have a go with Alclad II Chrome for the first time for some of the armour. Mike(ew) gave me some advice a couple of years ago at Farnborough to just mist it on, so I did. I under-coated with gloss black, but my initial results seem to show it goes better over Humbrol enamel gloss black than on Tamiya acrylic gloss black.



Unfortunately, the other thing I discovered is that it comes off very easilly, especially if glue is involved. this lead to a re-application to his helmet - here he is masked up and waiting (ready for a short back and sides from the look of it)

Before...


...and after



I decided to tart up his lance a bit by adding a white swirl to it (I am pretty sure they didn't have white paint in the mid-thirteen hundreds but what the hey). It came out OK but then disaster struck and one of my speakers fell off the bookshelf above it...



Fortunately it is a clean break so should glue together easily without being too obvious (just put it down to battle damage - it is a lance after all!).

The chain mail around his neck doesn't look right (currently Revell Aqua Gunmetal), so I will fire some Alclad Stainless Steel at that and see if it looks any better. Then it will be touching in more of the detail - buckles, straps etc. and then I'll be calling him finished.

As you will see I am clueless where it comes to faces, but there are several videos on Youtube for that sort of thing so I will be giving some of those a watch this weekend.





Cheers
Al.

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Very nice work Al  :Clapping:  is this for the Telford display  :?:

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Ayup Al...

Good work indeed. shame about the 'Gunmetal'...  Humbrol Gloss Black is very good, but I always use their Bespoke Black primer w/ microfiller in it, and it's fine. As to the Alclad coming off, that's a job for Klear, or Alclads own version of it. As to covering the face, well, there's so little of it, that a splash of Varnish is neither Here or there is it, if you're painting over it. Bare Hu61 should do...

Nice Lance too, even if it is broken...

It could be if you want it to be - it'll definitely be at Farnborough and Sutton Coldfield on the ATF tables.

Thanks for the info. on Alclad etc. Stu - I'm always keen to learn from other peoples experiences and techniques.

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They had all colours of paint in the 14th century.[and earlier]
You've done a nice interpretation, but he was known as 'The Black Prince' for his armour as much as for his personality.
To be proper, the mail should be a burnt umber colour. Mail was hardened by oil quenching which left it a dark brown colour.
Prince Edward's armour was blackened and then burnished, like black chrome is today.
Sorry, I'm being pendantic. I'm on my hobby-horse again.

Very nice job,  especially on that awkward shield.

Great job Al. I hope the lance goes back together OK.

If you're not good at painting faces you could always lower his visor.

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Don't worry about being pedantic Fred - this is just the kind of info. I love - all the more reason Mr.Airfix should re-issue the Black Prince so I can buy several and try out different colour schemes - the Black Chrome armour sounds fantastic. I may see if I can obtain another Black Prince at a show and then use the pieces to create moulds to clone a few more - purely for personal use of course!

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Yes please, we need some Medieval  :P

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The Black Prince names dates from about 200 years after his death IIRC.

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OK - I'm calling this old lad finished for now (although there is more touching up required), mostly because I'm working away from home this week and won't be able to spend any more time on him before Farnboro or Sutton Coldfield. Criticism willingly accepted - we only learn from our mistakes.









You didn't see the Blue Tack - right?! :aah:



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Al.

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I genuinely probably wouldn't have spotted the blue tac if you hadn't drawn my attention to it!

He looks nice.  I've never seen him or Anne or any of those series figures before

loverly job overall, .
Nice paint work on the lance. Don't worry about it being in parts, Engilsh lances were usually transported in parts and would be shortened for close quarter work as at Crecy.  At Poitiers the French had to saw theirs down as they were one piece.
Blutac? I thought he was holding a stone to chuck at some courtier who displeased him.



Prince Edward was known by that name during and after his campaign in Gascony in 1355 -56 [his 'grande chevauchee] and was mainly attributed to his black moods during which it was not advisable to anger him. Later, in Spain he adopted the then fashionable black armour.

Super job Al  :Clapping:
I think the shield was carried much lower on the arm  :idea:
I've seen re-enactors with the arm through one strap, clasping the other strap in their hand with a dirk or dagger, using it (with the shield) as a weapon  :wink:

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It was available continuously from 1960 to 1979. That's obviously an early box, but for a precise date I'd ask Steven Pietrobon  :idea:

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That is only one way of strapping a shield and is the 'traditional' way. Actually the more usual way was an upper arm strap and a hand grip strap at the pointy end. But If the hand was gauntleted it was usual to have it free as the gauntlet was built as a weapon with eye gougers on the knuckles and a throat ripper.
Some shields, espe. for horse warrers had two or three arrangements so the user could choose according to circumstance.
I have made numerous shields and I make according to the fighter's style. I'm making one for one chap who wants three sets of straps as he fights on foot as well as on horse. I make all my stuff to accurate historical record and patterns.
Unfortunately the straps on Prince Edward's shield no longer exist so we cannot be sure of the number or exact arrangement. His presentation here is acceptable to the period 1364 - 1374.
HTH