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PostPosted: Thu 13 Apr 2017 20:28 pm 
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Would anyone be able to help with a colour scheme.In the middle of building an italera 1/48 tornado and im confused over what colour 16 squadrons The Saint is.
Instuctons say black but photos im useing for some reference is green.Which is correct??????


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Apr 2017 21:19 pm 
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I am assuming you're referring to 75th Anniversary display scheme on ZA591
It is very definitely black (not gloss), but it does have a greenish tinge in one photo I've come across.
I think that's most likely down to light conditions and/or camera settings.

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HURRICANE: 231 ,,,8,,,13 ,37  ,,9,,, 9   17          
SPITFIRE:     183 ,,26,,,,4,,,,4,,, 0    4   16        


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Apr 2017 20:21 pm 
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Ooh, I thought it was fairly glossy. Not the serial you quoted, but this one shows it fairly glossy.

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... .jpg?v=v40

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Apr 2017 23:39 pm 
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Erm, Bruce. That's a Jaguar :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Apr 2017 04:43 am 
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Point taken. LOL.

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By the time you paint it Hu:33 or 85 and put your mattcote on it, it should have this sheen.

I can't recall seeing a black "The Saint" as a Tornado before, btw.

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I can't recall having seen the specific anniversary Tornado the OP is asking about (real or model), but I have seen normal Tonkas in "high visibility black", and it's normally a sheen as @Brews says.

So, to make my life easier, I'd paint gloss to get the decals to go down easy, then silk varnish.

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ZA591 was defiantly a satin black as seen here unusual for a special scheme which do tend to be more glossy. Can't help on the green tinge I'm afraid but it wouldn't surprise me.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 May 2017 06:33 am 
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The black Jaguar looks great!

I very much like the 1/48th Jaguar kit by Airfix and if there are decals availabe, it'll be finished in black like the photo!


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FWIW the "Revell" 1/48 scale Jaguar is the same tool.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 May 2017 11:55 am 
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Great stuff! This is the first time I've heard of an Airfix mould being taken on by Revell! Is the Heller kit the same as the Airfix one? I'd expect so, but thought I'd ask.


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PostPosted: Fri 19 May 2017 13:44 pm 
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Maybe more accurately the Airfix kit is almost the same as the Heller one.

My understanding is that back when both companies were part of the same group Heller did the moulds for both 1/48 Jaguar kits sharing the same major parts with different version specific detail parts , stores and decals as required as one of several joint ventures at the time. Airfix boxed and marketed the Jaguar GR.1 while Heller did likewise with the Jaguar A but later once the companies had gone their separate ways with Heller retaining the Jaguar moulds they later re-issued the GR.1 in their own box and more recently leased the moulds to Revell.

If this is in fact the correct understanding then I suppose that there would be little other than the will and finance to do so preventing Airfix setting about researching and producing the ultimate and accurate Jaguar GR.1/3.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 May 2017 15:28 pm 
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Well, I've got the Revell boxing of the GR1, which is definitely an RAF GR1, not a Jaguar A, and looks more Airfix than Heller in style (things like, say sprue size and section).

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PostPosted: Fri 19 May 2017 17:57 pm 
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Paws4thot wrote:
FWIW the "Revell" 1/48 scale Jaguar is the same tool.
I don't think so. Airfix doesn't share/lend tools with Revell :puke:
If you read our History you will see the Airfix kit shares parts with the Heller one :geek:

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