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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2012 19:59 pm 
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Can anybody please advise me as to which paint numbers would be required to paint the infantry uniforms for the British & German WWI infantry?


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Assuming WWII which part of the war?

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The thread title gives the clue  :arrow:
WW1  :wink:

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Ratch:473093 wrote:
The thread title gives the clue  :arrow:
WW1  :wink:


:)  Someone kick me  :hithead:
Same question though...which part of the war or  as the box art suggests ? (I didn´t miss anything about which sets ...or?  :)  )

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Painting the Airfix (early war) British infantry recently I used a mixture of: Revell acrylic 86 'Khaki brown; and Vallejo acrylic 'English uniform' 70921 and lightened it a bit to get tone I was happy with.

In some picture references the uniforms look brownish, some greeny (like the Airfix box art). So interested also to hear what people might suggest.


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From what I've seen of WW1 German equipment/clothing in museums I'd paint the figures' equipment Humbrol 123 Extra Dark Sea Grey, that with some green added for the clothing. Dark red/brown, or black, for leather belting. Black boots.

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Best book for WWI uniforms is Europa Militaria World War I Infantry in Colour Photographs by Laurent Mirouze.

You'll see that German uniforms go from a wonderful greenish-grey to a dull grey ersatz and British go from a greenish khaki to a browner shade (that's also how the fabric weathers it does get browner with time)

Sadly the OOP Uniform Grey was perfect for WWI German uniforms as it wasn't too green and it wasn't too grey.  

Before 1915 all the leather should be brown not black and even then the shoes worn with puttees were still brown, as would be the ammunition pouches.  Though officially blacked it never completely took and the blacking wore off quickly leaving a very dark brown.  Nice Black leather was usually ersatz which took and held the dye better.

Mix H31 Slate Grey with H32 Dark Grey will give a good early was color if painted over black.  If just a normal coat then use a darker grey base with touches of Slate Grey for the greenish tinge.  Late war uniforms could be pure Slate Grey or pure Dark Grey depending on how they weathered.  H87 Steel Grey is an alternative to H32 and is also good if you want to do the steel grey trousers sometimes worn.

For British uniforms I use H26 Khaki which matched my old sets of 1942 produced Battle dress exactly.  H29 Dark Earth also works for a slightly duller shade and H159 Khaki Drab is good for the greenish WWI uniforms.  British webbing depending on unit, time and wear and tear can be H78 Interior Green to H72 Khaki Drill to H84 Midstone to H121 Pale stone (which best matches my old set of 1937 pattern)

So it's a broad topic.  I say paint a couple of figures in each color and go with what you like best as none of the colors above is wrong.

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Watching one of the plethora of Great War programmes being screened currently, I was surprised how green the Officers' jackets were and how pale the men's webbing :shock:

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Officer's uniforms were better quality- but the green one in the terrible drama doc shown last night was just wrong.

Early war German boots were a tan shade, they got darker as the war progressed.

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czartan wrote:
but the green one in the terrible drama doc shown last night was just wrong.

Which one was that :?: and what colour should it have been :help:

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Useful reference when i come to paint my 'Pals' late 1916,
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I'm not sure this will help at all! However, I took this picture during a recent visit to the IWM in Manchester. I'd often heard the officer's uniforms were better quality ( 'Tailored' , 'bespoke' - Saville row etc!) Even so, I did do an almost comical double-take when I saw this beauty in the museum. The pic doesn't do the quality of it justice - the material looked like a very fine corduroy.

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The Howitzer that they believe fired the first British shell on the Western front, and a painting (in public domain) that portrays the men who used it.

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Very useful - keep it coming as I have built a 3ft by 2ft trench diorama out of papier-mâché and will need to have some 1/72 scale figures on each side of my no mans land. Incidentally I used wood patterns for the trench system so that once the papier-mâché was nearly dry I could pull them out of the muck and leave a zigzag trench system in place.


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AManfromcoalville wrote:
The Howitzer that they believe fired the first British shell on the Western front


For historical accuracy, that would be 'Field Gun' rather than howitzer - the latter fires with an elevation of more than 45 degrees, providing indirect fire e.g. over a slope, the 13 pounder shown fires essentially line of sight (and from the look of that shield could barely elevate much over 50 degrees).

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Yes, indeed :cheers: 'Field gun' it is! Dug out some notes I filed about it from our museum trip, so I must have known that - obviously forgot to engage brain whilst posting pics!
Imperial War Museum - Royal Horse Artillery ‘E’ Battery 13-pounder field gun.
This particular artillery piece fired the British Army’s first shell of the First World War on 22 August 1914 near Binche in Belgium during the retreat from Mons. On 15th September the gun received a direct hit which killed crew member Bombardier W. King and injured four others during the advance from the Marne to the Aisne. Note the metal plate repair used to cover the hole caused by the German shell. This gun remained in use throughout the war.
During the First World War, the gun fired the first British round on the Western Front on 22 August 1914 and was also one of the last to fire before the Armistice came into force in 1918.

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Officer's uniforms were of fine quality and normally personally tailored for the individual by a gentleman's outfitters; later on some would wear enlisted men's tunics in the trenches to avoid being singled out by snipers- these were sometimes referred to as funk jackets and were frowned on by the top brass.

I shall have to rewatch that documentary to let you know which jacket was wrong.

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At the Somme heritage centre in Northern Ireland I was told that the enlisted men's uniforms were made from army issue blankets cut and sewed into a jacket and trousers, this was during the early part of ww1 due to the amount of recruits outstripping the supply of uniforms , I'm not 100% sure how accurate this information is


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