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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2015 12:00 pm 
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Every pot of Hu11 is a lot duller than it used to be. Tend to use it as an undercoat for a brighter colour or if wanting a weathered appearance.

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To me Hu:11 has never been suitable for airframes :evil: I use Aluminium (Hu:56, Metalcote, Revell, Vallejo or Alclad2) :idea:

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2015 12:53 pm 
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I don't think any of the Humbrol metallics are as 'bright' as they used to be - Hu 11 silver certainly, but also Hu12 copper, Hu 16 gold, and Hu 54 brass. Unfortunately I'm running out of all my 'original' tins at the same time, and it's not just that the new ones are duller, the colours are quite different too, and more 'the same', i.e. hard to now tell gold from brass, or copper from bronze (oh, forgot to mention that one, Hu55 bronze, because I don't use that as much). Is this the result of 'toxin' legislation forcing a change of formulation? I think we should be told ...

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Dordogne Dodger wrote:
Is this the result of 'toxin' legislation forcing a change of formulation? I think we should be told ...

Something like that :think:

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The same reason my house turned yellow!
I've been using Model Master Alluminium which is a nice bright airframe colour.

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DogTailRed2 wrote:
I have two tins of brand new 11 and it looks grey. It also sprays dull like weathered aluminium.
The above was painted with Humbrol 11.

That looks like Hu56 so perhaps the wrong labels have been placed on the lid. I had a similar experience last year but the last two cans I have bought have been correct.


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I haven't had a good tin of Hu11 in ages all have been a dull off silver grey assumed that was the new formula.

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I've always painted silver (any metallic enamel really) as the final coat and (generally, but specifically on large metallic surfaces eg a silver airframe etc., have never applied any varnish over it. But from the posts I've read, it seems this is being done, and I pressume with no problem. Can enamel metallics be over-painted with enamel non-metallics without the later 'lifting' the former? I've used 'klear' over metallics, and whilst the sheen is affected - and this could be a problem for some finishes - there was no 'lifting'. As this experience relates prior to 2000, is the same true today? I would always do a trial anyway, often the interior of a wing etc., but thought I'd ask.


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Other than the sheen when using varnish coatings, I've never had an issue with over-painting an enamel "metal" with straight paint, or even with a tint (clear green, red etc including the original Humbrol 50, 51 and 52 unstirred as "kandy-style" coatings).

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It strikes me that if the metallic coat is lifting away from the plastic, or primer or whatever it has been applied too, it sounds as if it is the preparation underneath that that may be at fault, rather than on anything that is being applied on top. If paints are incompatible, in my experience, you get a bubbling effect rather than lifting. The only time I've experienced lifting paint was when removing masking tape from an airbrushed paint job it took the paint with it, I was told the paint wasn't sufficiently stirred.


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Whatever you do don't buy Vallejo Metal Color.

I want it all for myself. :love:

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