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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016 14:28 pm 
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This relates to polythene figures and not particularly Airfix, I have given up with Revell figures, there is no paint in the world that will stick to them. But I have just got some nice Italian figures by Waterloo 1815 and the paint falls off when I look at them., Pre-washing, acrylic paints, good old Humbrol, Revell enamels, all look at the plastic and take a hike. This is driving me crazy as the Waterloo 1815 figures are really nice, but look like they are zoombiefied by some paint virus.

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016 14:55 pm 
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I use Vallejo Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primers before painting with acrylics :arrow:
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016 16:33 pm 
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I use Humbrol Matt black 33 or Matt white 34 enamels as primers

These British got matt black undercoat
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The Crapauds got matt white undercoat.
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A current lot have got Humbrol 129 grey enamel as undercoat as they need, mostly, grey trousers and it'll save me having to double paint.

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Hmmmmm....... been trying to use spray paint as the primer, various "primer" from low cost shops. Will try the good old fashion Humbrol as a base and try again.
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Hmmmmm....... been trying to use spray paint as the primer, various "primer" from low cost shops. Will try the good old fashion Humbrol as a base and try again.
I've used spray primer and other spray paint as a primer in the past and the paint just flaked off. Now I just use an ordinary brush. It may seem to take longer, but I don't have to do them over again.
If some figures feel very greasy I put them into a bath of caustic soda solution to degrease. For the most part I don't even wash them before painting.

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016 17:12 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016 17:33 pm 
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I brush the paint on, cheap old black acrylic Hobby store paint (made by either Marabu or Hobbyline)
It doesn´t always adhere straight away to certain Plastics, especially the shiny types, so I know what you mean John. If it doesn´t stick stright off, I Keep continously brushing it on in a thin layer....maybe the brushing gets rid of any releasing agents, and as the paint stiffens / drys it eventually holds.

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Mar 2016 11:54 am 
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The trick I use with Polythene figures is to wash them in warm soapy water, rinse them off and then, when dry, coat them with slightly watered PVA glue- this forms a base layer that flexes with the plastic- then undercoat and paint and varnish as normal.

When the varnish has dried, coat them again with slightly watered PVA: this will then trap the paint between two flexible layers.

I have done several wargame armies in this way; they have lasted through many years of handling.

I can't claim to have originated this- I got it from a set of wargame rules.

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Fred, do you put any other colour on top of the black as a base for the top colours or do you just paint straight on top of the black,. im trying to get to grips with the figure painting,


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No, no other colour. I go straight in with the required colours.
I use both enamel and acrylic, depending on colour required, and matt or gloss as they get a final coat of matt varnish

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Hello
does anyone know any ways of making acrylic paint stick to 1/72 or 1/76 airfix figures, I have tried the watered down PVA glue method but it never seems to work for me so i was wondering if there were any alternative ways or products I can try/use
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:idea: Wash them in soapy water and spray them with primer first. Then try not to handle (bend) them too much while painting. I put primer through an airbrush but if you don't have one I should think some basic Halfords primer in a rattle can should work fine. Someone recommended to me sticking a few at a time to a coffee stirrer to make it a bit easier. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016 16:30 pm 
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thanks for your advice I will try a rattle can primer.

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I do it like this; you Need to scroll down to where the figs are painted (basecoated) black
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No washing , no spraying

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016 18:30 pm 
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Hi Paul I was wondering if you knew of any places where you can buy the paint you use for the base coat in the UK


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I generally just brush paint Humbrol Acrylic Matt black from the Airfix starter set pots to undercoat/prime my figures. I don't wash the figures first as I am too lazy, but it's a good thing to do. What I do is thin the paint down with tap water so that you get thinner paint layers to preserve the detail and slap it on. If the paint beads up and dewets from the figure (and it will quite often), I'll "scrub" the paint in with the brush until the paint takes. Presumably the scrubbing is helping to physically remove some oily residue on the figure. If the paint still beads up, then I'll use less dilute paint (so just add a bit more from the pot) and that works. This approach has worked for me for Airfix, Revell, Matchbox and HaT figures.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016 08:47 am 
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Thanks Paul H your method works great, i had some old green acrylic paint which I tried as a base coat and it was great, the paint didn't flake off even when they were bent.
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