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This article on Nick Milman's blog may be of interest.

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Help!

Could somebody please, i have an old 01072 Bf109G-6 but no Hu92.

Here are some pics of the box, looks a greeny colour to my colour blind eyes
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Will be painting this in 1944 colours but will also build a 1943 version.

What paints should i buy so i can replicate the real colour used as best as possible. Some makes look too greyish and some look nothing like it from other comparison charts.

Would gunze 70 be OK, that, to my eyes at least, looks possibly OK, or what about Tamiya FX 22 , is that too greyish to use for this setting/plane?

All help is very gratefully received.

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Ratch:428382 wrote:
Did you read the replies above  :?:



Hi Ratch
Yes i have read the above and the link and am still none the wiser, hence why i posted.
Some comparison matches are nothing like the original colour.

What about undercarriage? Looking for an exact match, not similar but exact match.
Mixing is not an option with my eyes.

Sorry to be a pain (yet again).

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Not the link. This  :arrow:
Ratch:200503 wrote:
92 has been out of the range for some time  :cry:

I presume you're looking to paint a German cockpit interior  :idea:

FS. 36165 = RLM 02 Grey = Hu: 92 Matt Iron Grey = HG.6 Luftwaffe Cockpit Colours R.L.M. Grau 02 (R.L.M. Grey) = Tamiya XF75 = Xtracolor 201 RLM 02 Grau = Lifecolor UA108 = Gunze Hobby 70 = Aqueous Hobby Color H 70 Semi-Gloss RLM02 Gray
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FS. 36152 = Vallejo Model Colour 70.886/101 Green Grey = Vallejo Model Air 71.052 German Grey = RLM 75 = RAL 7012 = Hu: 92 Matt Iron Grey = Tamiya XF22 = Xtracolor 207 RLM 75 Grauviolett = Aqueous Hobby Color H 69 Semi-Gloss RLM75 Gray

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Hi Ratch

Thanks for taking the time to help out.

It is mainly for the undercarriage and fuselage marking. I take it the interior is/was that colour also. Not much interior is able to be seen on the small cockpit of the 01072 kit (series1).

I spent ages yesterday looking at comparison colours, the Gunze and Tamiya comparisons look so different from the original hu92.

Some look grey, some look green, some are listed as tank grey, very confusing for the noob.

Suppose the easy way would be to buy all the comparison paints and see what each looks like once applied.

Sorry to be a pain, i do appreciate all help given.

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Just to confuse matters even further, got my neighbour to nip into the LMS to ask them for a hu92 replacement and was sold this.

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She took in the box for 01072 series 1 and showed the man there it.
After about 15 minutes searching and comparing he gave her Tamiya XF-69.

It looks black to my eyes, is this correct?

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NATO Black is a very dark grey, much darker than Hu 92. RLM Grey is a greenish grey, not particularly dark. Try using Tamiya XF-22 'RLM Grey'. :wink:

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Would Revell 71 be of any use? Seen that on a conversion chart also that looks like it could be comparable.

Will pick up a Tamiya XF22 tomorrow on my travels to Edinburgh.

Would any of the Luftwaffe paint series be of any use like these ones.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lifecolor-Acr ... _898wt_804
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lifecolor-Acr ... _880wt_804

or these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vallejo-Model ... _912wt_804
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vallejo-Model ... _893wt_804

I do plan to build a few Luftwaffe creations so would any of these be of any use.

Thanks for taking the time to stop bye peebeep.

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'I just can't believe that Humbrol would not produce a paint required for a Bf 109 scheme'.
 
Humbrol have rarely actually provided OOT colours for any aircraft let alone a 109.  Revell 45 + white 4:1 ratio is RLM 02.  After 1941 interiors were RLM 66 which is what H92 was intended as, but never was.  The old Railway R105 was far nearer and I used that for years.  The best match now compared to the Kiroff chart is 5 x R8 or H33 + 1 x H27.


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NATO Black is a very dark grey, much darker than Hu 92. RLM Grey is a greenish grey, not particularly dark. Try using Tamiya XF-22 'RLM Grey'. :wink:

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Yes, but Tamiya Nato Black is not a bad match for RLM 66 (at least, some interpretations of it). Another "match" might be Humbrol 67 (tank grey).

RLM Grey (RLM 02) may appear on the u/c struts and wheel well interior. The oleos should, of course, be chrome colour.

RLM 66 should be used for the cockpit interior, and the wheel discs.

The exterior dark grey (RLM 74) is lighter than RLM 66. You should also note that there is an interior frame on the 109 Canopy. It is the central upper one on the rear (fixed) part. In 1:72, you'd be hard-pressed to pick the difference between RLM 66 and 74 on such a short, thin, line. You might in other scales, and particularly where the interior is in 02.

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Could some-one please tell me what is the nearest Humbrol colour to RLM 02, (Hu 78?)?
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Humbrol 240 is the new matched-to RLM 02

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Just come back from my local, (Hobby Shop). They did not stock any RLM colours in Humbrol, so had to settle with Mr. Hobby Satin Acrylic instead. I don't know how the prices compare to your Hobby Shops, in your part of the world, the cheapest for me is $3.80 for Humbrol, and $3.95 for Mr. Hobby, (that's AUS $, 1/2 this for Pounds/Pence). I picked up a couple of no. 6 Humbrol Brushes for $2.00 AUS each, which was cheap.
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:ot: I've been getting my brushes from the Dollar Store - three or so to a pack for $1.25 - and the quality isn't bad at all. Not Windsor & Newton quality, but good enough for throwaways.

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:ot: That's real good value Bruce. Most of our "Cheapy shops", have closed down, those which are still going don't sell that sort of thing.
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Had a look through this thread and no-one's come up with the fact that back in the 1970s & 80s Scale Models mag quoted Humbrol Matt31 Slate Grey as a very close RLM02 colour. The advice was to use a drop of Humbrol Matt 64 Light Grey for a 'used' look.
I know that most everyone used it for their Luftwaffe models that needed 02.
For my Fw 190V build I'm using Matt 31 with a touch of Matt 64 added to the can.

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As fred said earlier, Humbrol 240 is the one out of their recent RLM range for RLM02. These can be hard to come by, I know our LHS has had them in once & now they're gone. Humbrol 225 Dark Slate Grey is another route to a decent rlm02 & to my mind a better one that using 31 which is simply too green, Hu225 Dark Slate Grey with a little pale grey in it will be closer to rlm 02 than will Hu 31 with some Hu64 in it. Its simply a better starting pouint. If you have access to Vallejo paint, Vallejo Model Colour 70886, Grey Grun is an almost perfect match for rlm02 as well.
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The link in my post at the start of this thread is dead due to the closure of White Ensign. However, WEM Color coats were taken on by Sovereign and can now be found here

https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/coll ... ffe?page=1

Ron recommended WEM Color Coats to me years ago and I have used them almost exclusively ever since. Their RLM02 is particularly good. Great paints.


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