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 Post subject: 1/72nd scale Paper Tanks
PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016 09:19 am 
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Has anyone tried These?
http://lazylife.at-ninja.jp/papercraft_ ... hicle.html
The instructions seem very fiddly but the end results don´t look too bad...ie; this StugG
http://lazylife.at-ninja.jp/papercraft/ ... usf_g.html
The Downloads are for free

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016 10:13 am 
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They look interesting, something to do over the christmas period while there is nothing on the tv,


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016 12:13 pm 
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Impressive results. And free... Might have to have a go!

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016 14:13 pm 
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I've tried paper models several times and just don't have the knack. However, I've found they make great patterns for scratch building out of plastic card.


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Dec 2016 04:08 am 
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They do look good, I've only done model railway buildings.
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Dec 2016 09:59 am 
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Ron Bell wrote:
However, I've found they make great patterns for scratch building out of plastic card.

I thought that as well. There was a question (I can´t find it now) during the StuG GB asking about templates for the side skirts, wether there were any in 1/72nd scale. The Print out of the StuG has exactly that :)

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Thanks for the link - brilliant! I also thought that they'd be good templates for plastic card scratch building. Perhaps the Hetzer might be the easiest to start with :think:

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For those with experience of such things, would it be possible to print directly onto plasticard (not something I've tried) or would it be a question of printing on paper and backing it with plasticard?

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I've built plenty of a/c models from paper and card, as well as balloons (OK, I know they're technically also 'aircraft') and birds (and dragons, but I try not to talk about my 'fantasy' modelling). Not sure I'd want to try Braille scale AFVs, though, I find them hard enough in plastic - and the key to good card/paper models is absolute accuracy in size and shape, not something I think I could achieve at that scale. As to printing on plasticard, nearest I've tried is printing windowframes (with added grime and cobwebs) on clear sheet for use with card buildings. It was extremely hit-and-miss and in the end I got better results on tracing paper. But it does, apparently, depend on your printer - my Epson doesn't adapt well according to the experts, but some HP models do much better. HTH!

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I wouldn't recommend it- obviously laser printers use heat to fuse the ink, but some inkjets also tend to get hot as well (they need to; to get the ink to 'stick' onto coated papers like photo paper)

...And there is the issue of your paper path- some printers use a very tight turn at the back, to which plastic, being a bit more rigid, may not respond to, satisfactorily.

Funnily enough, older printers were much better at this- their paper paths weren't so tortuous, so could cope with more rigid materials.

Whether a high-end photo printer might work, I don't know. In theory, they can handle 250+ gsm paper so the thickness wouldn't be a prob, but whether that means the more rigid plastic would pass through I don't know.

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I printed onto plastic Card once using an HP Printer. The main Problem wan´t the Card jamming etc but the ink didn´t take. I accidently smeared a Corner (I forgot that the shiny surface wouldn´t soak up the print..DOH!) then left it to dry but even after a week it still wasn´t completely dry.

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It should be possible to use the paper components as templates. Perhaps glue the printed paper to thick card to make a more durable template.
I have glued printed plans directly onto plastic card but only for relatively small parts. The paper can be soaked off before assembly.
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I reckon that's the way to go

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Hi!
I've made buildings, bridges and bunkers of cardboard and printed paper, including Pegasus Bridge, Caffee Gondree and Ouistreham Casino (as seen in The Longest Day), for using in wargames. They are very though, indeed, and look very well. They are cheaper than plastic building (I don't find these ones in my country or they are very, very expensive) :( .

As an experiment I also made an LVT Alligator from the Battle of Tarawa. Altough it is very simple, you can detail it with plastic machine guns, and so on.

Are you interested in these models? They're free, of course.
(I don't know if this is the place I can put some pictures of them)


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Hi Danny.
You could definately put up pics of Paper tanks here (the titel allows that :wink:)
The other stuff you could put in your Portfolio

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I've tried these before though no AFVs main problem I found was you need a specific type of matte card to get the right structural rigidity and print quality. It wouldn't go through a domestic printer and I had to use our professional one at work. Final product looked good (eventually) but there is a surprisingly steep learning curve and the finished article is very fragile.

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You could try printing the parts onto paper then gluing them onto stiffer card, (used this technique with model railway buildings).
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Perhaps the best thing about 1/72 paper tanks is that you can reduce them to 1/76!
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Hello!
Here are the pictures I promised of my paper LVT.
The figure is for comparation: it's Marshall Montgomery, from a Matchbox kit.
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"44" was a LVT that participated in the Battle of Tarawa.Of course, you'll see the white paper color around the caterpillars, but you can paint it if you have enough patience.
The model lacks a lot of details we can add (and I will, some day...): machine guns, lights, motor hatchs...
The strange grey color of the sides is not because of the light but caused by the adhesive I used, Acrilex, an acrilic white adhesive. It causes colors to splur, you see. It's an interesting and real effect, after all...
I like this paper model a lot, and I'm thinking to build more of them, for Pacific wargames.


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Looks ok for wargaming.
I built a Card tank, a Tiger as the curves weren´t that difficult and made the same mistake of using PVA. It looked ok at first but then the colours leaked.
Solution? I´ve heard hairspray stops the colours leaking but I´ve never tried it. Anyone ?

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