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dancho
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Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009 23:33 pm Post subject: Cut Away Drawing of Starship Enterprise |
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I think this is pretty cool.
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Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009 23:43 pm Post subject: |
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But where are the heads?  |
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The crew cack onto the transporters which beam the results out into space, or aboard any passing Klingon "wessel". _________________ circumveniat quod circumiret
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dancho
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Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009 23:58 pm Post subject: |
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I did not know that. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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You've only got it in two dimensions.
There is at least one public one on the Enterprise-D. If you go out of the door on the bridge that leads to the observation lounge and turn left it's there. Marked clearly on the official blueprints.  _________________ Bubbly! |
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Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Ayup All...
I wonder if 'Mrs Mop' wears those stretchy Uniforms when she goes for her 'Mop and Bucket' ! And Is there some scaggy corner cupboard where all the brushes are kept as is right and proper, the one that smells of Wee !
And also, does Physics Intervene if you're on the head when the Enterprise goes to Warp?
I also hope that most if not all of the crew are Humanoid in shape and appendage for the sake of the cubicles ! _________________ Airfix Member 022... Jolly Boy.
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Ayup Topgun...
I know... I got it when it came out !
Huzzah !  _________________ Airfix Member 022... Jolly Boy.
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Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009 21:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Beaufighter wrote: | | The crew cack onto the transporters which beam the results out into space, or aboard any passing Klingon "wessel". |
 _________________ "It's life Jim, but not as we know it!" - Dr McCoy
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dancho
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| Beaufighter wrote: | | The crew cack onto the transporters which beam the results out into space, or aboard any passing Klingon "wessel". |
I thought it was all recycled. I mean, they never really explained how those "food replicators" actually worked! _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 01:17 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I thought it was all recycled. I mean, they never really explained how those "food replicators" actually worked! |
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That concept is discussed in Alien.....Just before John Hurt explodes messily on the dining table!
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| dancho wrote: | | Beaufighter wrote: | | The crew cack onto the transporters which beam the results out into space, or aboard any passing Klingon "wessel". |
I thought it was all recycled. I mean, they never really explained how those "food replicators" actually worked! |
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Well if the transporters can disassemble and then reassemble a human atom by atom, then converting a pile of Richard the Thirds into a slap up meal shouldn't present much of a problem.
In the early days of the technology, they probably experimented by taking a pile of cack and trying to turn it into a Little Chef Early Starter breakfast.
It's like converting kits - start with something easy. _________________ circumveniat quod circumiret
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 21:45 pm Post subject: |
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| dancho wrote: | | Beaufighter wrote: | | The crew cack onto the transporters which beam the results out into space, or aboard any passing Klingon "wessel". |
I thought it was all recycled. I mean, they never really explained how those "food replicators" actually worked! |
IIRC there was something along these lines in the Star Trek: TNG Technical Manual about recycled material being fed into the replicator system, so it's possible they were eating their own cack.  _________________ "It's life Jim, but not as we know it!" - Dr McCoy
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| Even with molecular reconstruction surely there would be diminishing returns on nutrients? |
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 22:02 pm Post subject: |
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That's a cracking pic that. Slightly off-topic, but not too far, this is a lovely book to flick through on a rainy afternoon.
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dancho
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 22:04 pm Post subject: |
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Let's look at it this way. We have the cow munching grass and leaving "deposits" on the ground which in turn are utilized by the grass as nourishment so that the grass grows and is in turn eaten by the cow. Now all we have to do is eat the cow (or the milk) to intrude on this--nature's own recycling-- and enter into the recycling "chain" whether we like the idea or not.
It's a small step from there to a more efficient system suitable for space travel zillions of light-years from the nearest grocery store. _________________ “Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to, and above all, have fun.”
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 22:20 pm Post subject: |
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But the natural cycles are more complex- interacting with the soil and its own ecosystem; then there are the nitrogen cycles and photosynthesis.
The Enterprise couldn't process sufficient minerals and nutrients from waste alone, as these are absorbed by the digestive system.
Something else would need to be added into the mix. Sludge from the oil sump or its 25th century equivalent  |
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Posted: Tue 13 Oct 2009 23:27 pm Post subject: |
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The transporters break people down into atoms and reassemble them elsewhere in the original arrangement, atom by atom.
Ditto the cack. It isn't just reprocessed to extract every possible nutrient. It's actually broken down into into its constituent atoms - presumably mainly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and in my case a fair bit of sulphur - that are recombined into different molecules.
The nutrients would therefore be recreated every time.
This is probably why transporters are (apparently) the least plausible bit of treknology. Engines that warp space, particle weapons, etc all have some basis in theoretical physics.
The idea of splitting people into their constituent atoms and teleporting them elsewhere doesn't work on any level. For one thing, why wouldn't you die? The version of yourself that appeared elsewhere wouldn't be you, it would be a new being with your memory, but you'd be dead.
Also, why not use them as a weapon? Why not dematerialise bits of the enemy ship's hull, to let all the the air out, then rematerialise them again so you can take possession? _________________ circumveniat quod circumiret
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